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Mountain Bikes To Trigs

PostPosted: Wed Nov 07, 2018 7:58 pm
by FrankR
I was just wondering, has anyone ever used a mountain bike to shorten the journey to a trig? Are there some pillars out there where the use of a bike would be recommended? I've often cycled in to the cairngorms to shorten the walks to the crags but I know there are some places where cyclists are shunned for "ruining trails" and "mowing down" good honest people.
Just curious that's all.

Re: Mountain Bikes To Trigs

PostPosted: Wed Nov 07, 2018 9:05 pm
by MAC.HAWK
The main issue of using bikes (mountain, cyclo-cross or whatever) to access Trig points is using them inappropriately on footpaths and/or Open Access land, which as a general rule forbids cycles any sort of access to either. Strictly speaking, in England and Wales, cycles should be used on public roads (not motorways), byways open to all traffic, bridleways and restricted byways - all clearly marked on an OS map.

The main issues are cyclists persistently churning up footpaths and expecting people on foot to give way to them when actually the law dictates that cyclists should give way to pedestrians (on bridleways).

I've lost count of the number of times I've had to remonstrate with mountain bikers on footpaths who don't seem to (or want to) understand that the clue is in the name 'foot-path'

Having said that, there are some famous hills that you could bike up along the bridleways................. Helvellyn, High Street (Lakes), Snowdon, Ingleborough (Yorkshire), The Calf (Howgill Fells) etc and an awful lot you can get pretty close to if you're prepared the leg it the last couple of miles or so.

Re: Mountain Bikes To Trigs

PostPosted: Fri Nov 09, 2018 6:16 pm
by FrankR
Despite my original post, I am also not keen on mountain bikes tearing up the footpaths and have had my fair share of having to dodge then when they come hating down past walker's, however it is good to know that fit those of us with enough common sense and respect that bikes can be useful in shortening walls to trig's where used appropriately. Also, I figured they would also be ideal for getting between trig points to avoid the hassle of dutifully back and forth on country roads etc struggling to find parking etc.

Re: Mountain Bikes To Trigs

PostPosted: Sat Nov 10, 2018 8:09 pm
by MAC.HAWK
I've used the bike on the odd occasion to get from A to B when tigging multiple urban pillars and I'm certainly not anti-mountain bike................. if only they'd keep off the footpaths

Re: Mountain Bikes To Trigs

PostPosted: Fri Jan 18, 2019 6:12 pm
by fasgadh
None of that nonsense about footpaths here, and I use the bike to get to quite a few trigs or getting close in to them. Handy when walking is extremely painful.

Re: Mountain Bikes To Trigs

PostPosted: Sun Jan 20, 2019 12:20 am
by MAC.HAWK
Bikes on Footpaths?

Irresponsible idiots!

Don't care what your mobility issues are - footpaths are for people on foot only - the clue is in the name.

Re: Mountain Bikes To Trigs

PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2019 11:17 pm
by fasgadh
What a nice man.

I don't care what your prejudices are, here is The (Lammer) Law
https://www.outdooraccess-scotland.scot

Your welcome, enjoy your trigging.

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Re: Mountain Bikes To Trigs

PostPosted: Fri Feb 01, 2019 8:57 pm
by MAC.HAWK
No, I think you'll find that THIS is the Law in three quarters of the countries that make up the United Kingdom - https://www.gov.uk/right-of-way-open-access-land.

I have no prejudices against people with genuine disabilities but I think your attempt to justify breaking the Law and causing irresponsible environmental damage rather sad, if your happy with yourself with that so be it.

Re: Mountain Bikes To Trigs

PostPosted: Fri Feb 01, 2019 11:08 pm
by agentmancuso
In the context of access to land, raising the objection that a particular action is "breaking the law" is to lose the argument.

Otherwise, please keep it civil gentlemen.

Re: Mountain Bikes To Trigs

PostPosted: Fri Feb 01, 2019 11:22 pm
by fasgadh
Thats nice, but I and the OPs Cairngorms live in Scotland. No one gets hurt, no laws broken.
Back to the OP: the private road network in the Highlands is growing, a source of controversy. As a result it is often possible to save a many kilometres of walking with a bike and you will usually find a pile of parked bikes at the foot of popular remote hills. Take care to have the right gear for routine repairs with you... walking out pushing a knackered bike is hard work. Just remember the ethos is very different and you will have a much better visit if you leave the restrictions of the southern half of the island behind, relax and enjoy the freedom.

There are also some great multi day trips possible off roads. There is also a network of promoted paths, core paths which is the nearest we get to the footpaths down south. These are officially and legally open to bikes, but you are not obliged to keep to them. This map is handy
https://www.nature.scot/enjoying-outdoo ... h-networks

Enjoy

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West Hills, Angus (for much of the year I would not even consider walking here, but when it is stubble time.....)