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TP1248 - Bellevue
 
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Grid reference :
Type :
Condition :
Good Good condition
Flush Bracket :
S3355
OSGB36 Station :
ST57/T71
Current use :
none
Historic use :
T:UK waypoint :
TP1248
County :
Avon
Nearest town :
BRISTOL

OSGB36 trig archive spreadsheet - IW
Trig NameOriginal NameNew NameEASTINGNORTHINGHEIGHTORDERTYPE OF MARKComputing DateCLASS OF LEVELLINGDate of LevellingLEVELLING DATUMDESTROYED MARK INDICATORCOMMENTS
BellevueST57/T71ST57T071359777.47171921.5138.1703PILLAR01/06/1944101/12/1956N0

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There are 32 photos for this trigpoint (view album).

This trigpoint:
Is ranked joint 19850th with 31 other trigs (more).
Has a mean score of 3.82/10 (from 34 logged visits)
Was First logged: 14th Jun 1981
Was Last found intact: 2nd Feb 2017
Was Last logged: 18th Dec 2017

Of the 34 logged visits,
7 recorded a location and of these....

All were within 6m
The average error was 2m
2 were exact

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Selection of photos for this Pillar.

Trig Point
By G1ANQ
View
By G1ANQ
Gap between houses
©rwilson121

By pkbathrooms

©g4wsb
The new apartment block under construction
©jonglew
See 26 more in the album.

Logged Visits:

Inaccessible 18th Dec 2017  10:15  by Bridgeman

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Inaccessible  Score: 3/10

En route to Temple Meads Station so diverted to take a look. Now that the new houses are finished, access to trig point looks now on impossible. For the sheer determine, it might be possible to scale two secure fences to the north east but then the area is full of thick brambles. Trig point lies within railway property at the top of a steep embankment. i couldn't even spot it from the Bath road below.


Inaccessible 8th Aug 2017  13:15  by G1ANQ

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Inaccessible  Score: 6/10

We were driving through Bristol, l so I took the chance to bag a couple of trigs on the way. This trig is now behind a new housing development but after reading the previous logs, I decided it was worth a try. Leaving the Mrs and Neptune the dog, in the car, I rang the bell of No19 and a bloke called Freddy answered the door. He and his partner were very friendly and kindly invited me in to their house. The trig is behind, not only their wooden fence, but a wire security one as well. It is also being eaten by the surrounding vegetation. I didn't fancy climbing over two fences. Even if the owners did offer to find me a ladder. The house has great views over Temple Meads Station and Bristol in general. At night it must be spectacular. Not too sure that the Mrs understood why I was so excited about bagging this trig (or any one, to be honest!)

Trig Point showing it behind a double fence
View


Good condition 2nd Feb 2017  14:56  by edfielden

Gridref: ST 59778 71921   FB Number: S3355  Condition: Good  Score: 7/10

A birthday surprise (carefully arranged by my girlfriend who gained permission!) allowed me to get to this pillar and thus fulfil an ambition I had held since I started working in Bristol some 10 years ago! The pillar has a very slight lean to the NNW, but has a great outlook over the southern station throat of Bristol Temple Meads and part of the city. FB faces SSE into fence; original cap intact; sightholes not observed. High-ish score for the surprise experience and also the view!


Unreachable but visible 20th Nov 2016  14:45  by Nekyram

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Unreachable but visible  Score: 5/10

Between fences behind houses


Inaccessible 10th Nov 2016  14:21  by rwilson121

FB Number: S3355  Condition: Inaccessible  Score: 3/10

Did not seek permission from house owner to enter garden to access the cliffside, but I assume that if it's still there then it would be easy to spot.

Gap between houses Gate on back fence of the garden is a possible access point to the cliffside.©rwilson121


Good condition 24th Sep 2015  00:00  by caroleengel

Gridref: ST 59777 71925   FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Good  Score: 5/10

Sorry "pkbathrooms" but the pillar is not in a garden but outside and behind housing fencing and second security fence in rough ground. I accessed via fencing gap to right of no.19 Bellevue Terrace which (with difficulty) leads to a channel between these two fences.. There is a break in the security fence which allows full access to the trig. Take secateurs and be prepared for a struggle


Good condition 16th Aug 2015  14:50  by pkbathrooms

Gridref: ST 59777 71922   FB Number: S3355  Condition: Good  Score: 7/10

gained access with permission from the residents of the new build. it is behind fencing.





Good condition 6th Jul 2015  15:18  by Griefmiester

Gridref: ST 59777 71922   FB Number: S3555  Condition: Good  Score: 6/10

I think this is the fifth time of asking for this one! Due to building work and understanding workman I was able to get to it. Pillar good condition and located just outside the building compound. No views.

Pillar & FB


Good condition 28th Jun 2015  11:12  by g4wsb

Gridref: ST 59781 71927   FB Number: S3355  Condition: Good  Score: 5/10

19 Bellevue new build now open laying slabs in garden to be, access is now easy but will soon have to ask new owner of house . Could be seen from payment.

©g4wsb
©g4wsb
©g4wsb


Inaccessible 30th Mar 2015  08:54  by SlainteJimmy

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Inaccessible  Score: 5/10


Good condition 28th Feb 2015  12:55  by BRISTOLIAN

FB Number: 3355  Condition: Good  Score: 5/10

As previous bagger has stated there are building works here at the moment. Visited here on a Saturday so no people around. Hopped fence and took a selfie.

Mr K at trig. Propped phone on old tyres and stones to get this shot.©BRISTOLIAN


Good condition 20th Feb 2015  10:17  by jonglew

Gridref: ST 59778 71921   FB Number: S3355  Condition: Good  Score: 5/10

Access awkward due to construction of a large apartment block directly in front of the pillar. Also, being on railway property it is behind 2m security fencing. Construction workers today happy for me to dig around and access over the fence was reasonable straightforward. Pillar found in good condition after brambles etc cleared a little. Original cap in place, lightly indented lettering; front and rear sight holes open, the other 2 require digging down to; BSM-style FB. Limited views to N through trees.

The new apartment block under construction TP1248©jonglew
Pillar behind security fencing TP1248©jonglew
Pillar TP1248©jonglew
Spider TP1248©jonglew
Flush Bracket TP1248©jonglew


Couldn't find it 29th May 2014  13:31  by THE CYCLIST

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Couldn't find it  Score: 5/10

Building work now in full progress. Site locked up for day - didn't attempt to climb hoardings. future access likely to be via householder's back yard.


Couldn't find it 18th Nov 2013  16:37  by THE CYCLIST

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Couldn't find it  Score: 5/10

The previously derelict land is now a building site surrounded by tall wooden hoardings. two containers/workmans huts are sited next to the far boundary near where the pillar should be. No easy access currently possible.


Unreachable but visible 13th Apr 2013  13:12  by plet56

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Unreachable but visible  Score: 2/10

The brambles have been cleared and there is a huge pile of rubbish - looks like the community garden is coming along. It's still not possible to legally get closer than the road and given the time of day I decided not to attempt climbing over the wall. The pillar is easily made out through two fences.

Not such a belle vue


Good condition 24th Dec 2012  13:30  by CJO

Gridref: ST 59775 71918   FB Number: S3355  Condition: Good  Score: 3/10

Got to within 2 m on my GPS and could not see the pillar due to the dense brambles. Was reaching the point that either pillar was destroyed or the GPS was playing up when i caught a glimpse of concrete. There is an application posted on the fence dated May 2011 for the area to be turned into a community garden, not sure how this is progressing i would suggest slowly. check the photo by Rogertempleman, to see how things have changed since 1981. i could not see any railway beyond the vegetation.

S3355 within 2 meters and i still cant see the pillar
S3355 it definetly says BsM3355


Good condition 4th Apr 2012  09:40  by Dusty

FB Number: S3355  Condition: Good  Score: 3/10

One of those pillars that has played on my mind for some time now. I just had to make the effort to reach it. Further up the road from the filled in gap is a section of wall which is lower and climbable. Brambles not too bad at this time of year.

Trigpoint
Flush Bracket, just about!
Trigpoint
Spider


Couldn't find it 4th Jun 2011  06:06  by Trigger

FB Number: S3355  Condition: Couldn't find it  Score: 5/10

TP1248


Unreachable but visible 1st May 2011  14:29  by penfold1570

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Unreachable but visible  Score: 3/10

I was in Bristol, thought I would take a look. The photos given by previous vistors help somewhat although the gap in the fence has been repaired. Peaking through the gap though, I am sure I can see the trig through the fence on the far side of the waste ground. Some vegetation clearance has taken place but the trig is totally unreachable. Walls, fences and clear "keep out" signs give me a clear message.


Unreachable but visible 12th May 2010  15:25  by raypool

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Unreachable but visible  Score: 5/10

Could just see pillar by looking over wall, picture taken with zoom lens.


Couldn't find it 7th Dec 2009  15:30  by cmb1953

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Couldn't find it  Score: 1/10

Surrounded by high walls and fences with trespass notices. In my opinion, totally unreachable at present.


Couldn't find it 7th Dec 2007  16:10  by lonesome_cowboy_burt

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Couldn't find it  Score: 1/10

Tried to peer over the wall but I am a bit too short. Gates locked. Walking back into Bristol I noticed that there appears to be a steep route up from the south end of the railway bridge, possibly used by the graffiti artists. I think you would still have to work your way around the outside of the wall. It was getting dark by then...


Not Logged 12th Nov 2007  13:15  by tom

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Not Logged  Score: 1/10

The site of the pillar is in an area of intensive bramble cultivation above a railway cutting with a lofty retaining wall; the land is also used as a dumping ground for builders’ rubble, household scrap and garden rubbish that has been thrown over the six foot wall and fence that runs along the north-western side of Bellevue Terrace. There were no gaps in the wall or fence to enable access and the gate at the top of the road was secured by two padlocks. The pillar will probably remain intact for future generations; or possibly until somebody is prepared to scale the fence/wall and negotiate the malevolent vegetation to reach it. Looking over the wall at the other end of Bellevue Terrace there was a view over Temple Meads Station and the city centre.


Couldn't find it 3rd Oct 2007  13:30  by bluebeard

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Couldn't find it  Score: 3/10

the stone wall by the gate has been "filled in" so it is no longer possible to slip in. numerous new "british rail as was" signs threatening prosecution for trespassing.


Couldn't find it 7th Apr 2007  18:41  by The Flying Boots

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Couldn't find it  Score: 5/10

Got let into the rough ground by the keyholder of the gate in the top corner after I told him what I was up to. He was most helpful and even suggested I get over the second fence but sadly it was too high for me to get over and a thicket of brambles covered everything else.


Good condition 18th Feb 2007  12:00  by peregrinus

FB Number: S3355  Condition: Good  Score: 2/10

vgc, metal cap, apparently shallow letters, partly obscured and a bit too dusky for a good look, by the time I'd found the street and then the pillar. Narrow gap at wall end, straight across debris to railway fence, then head c 8m L; pillar is 0.5m on wrong side of fence. FB is facing fence, with clear view, but too dusky for sharp pic. Nice chance to play with my new secateurs and clear what remains of the bramble stems - good work by Brisey, the Gortex crew et al. S3355 is duplicated - same number on Chelsham Court. BsM style; Bellevue FB apparently has a smaller S, could be illusion, but to me Bellevue looks more like S3249 Unity Farm, while Chelsham Court looks more like S3384 Kings Weston. Wonder which was built first.

S3355 fb Was a bit dark I'm afraid©peregrinus


Good condition 11th Feb 2007  17:07  by captain gore-tex

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Good  Score: 8/10

Very difficult to reach. Used the photos of the metal gate to squeeze past then straight over the waste ground to the 8 foot high fence that separates the ground from railway property. A sustained period of 'gardening' was then needed to get alongside the trig. I would suggest this one is going to remain in perfect condition for years to come due to its location. Score of 8 given for the entertainment value!


Not Logged 7th Jun 2006  17:50  by Brisey

FB Number: S3355  Condition: Not Logged  Score: 2/10

I rank this as my most difficult pillar so far, worse than another Bristol one I struggled with (Kings Weston TP4226). After a climb over a fence which closes a gap in the wall, carefully through allotment remains and other debris to the railway fence, a crawl on the ground beneath the bramble canopy was needed to get within a few feet of the pillar. It was just outside the fence, with the FB almost obscured by a thick bramble stem, but with vewing from different angles, I was able to make out the number. It was impossible to stand so I could not get a view of the top to judge the condition. On my return to the road, a local who was walking his dog must have thought I was mad, appearing in a short sleeved shirt with bleeding arms! He said he could remember the pillar from when the land was a working allotment.

The way in!
TP1248 As good a picture as I could get.
S3355 Quite difficult to read from a single position.


Couldn't find it 1st Apr 2006  09:30  by Glaslyn

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Couldn't find it  Score: 1/10

Couldnt see it and will need permission to get Y/N answer on its fate.


Couldn't find it 12th Jan 2005  15:22  by rhayader_wanderer

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Couldn't find it  Score: 5/10

but tempted to say totally unreachable. Largescale mapping still shows a trig behind the wall in an area marked up as allotment gardens. Wall and fencing suggests this block of land is now railway owned


Couldn't find it 30th Jun 2004  12:00  by iainmac

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Couldn't find it  Score: 0/10

Probably behind wall and fence at top of railway embankment. Will return with 10 digit grid ref and flamethrower.


Not Logged 21st Apr 2004  19:00  by Isosceles

FB Number: S3355  Condition: Not Logged  Score: 1/10

On a high railway embankment off Bellevue Terrace, Bristol, BS4 overlooking Temple Meads station. The embankment was fenced off. Could get to within ca. 50 ft (measured by GPS).

©Isosceles


Couldn't find it 7th Nov 2003  15:00  by maurice

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Couldn't find it  Score: 0/10

Pillar is possibly on railway land behind high brick wall


Good condition 14th Jun 1981  00:00  by RogerTempleman

FB Number: S3355  Condition: Good  Score: 7/10

White pillar inside chain link fence of allotments on top of embankment overlooking Temple Meads station and visible over roadside wall. Gate in wall locked on this visit and no gardeners around. Returned on 22 Sept 1985 when gate open to photograph pillar amongst fine crop of cabbages - pillar now a uniform bare grey. Allotment holder seemed oblivious to intruder with camera.

S3355: Belle Vue allotments, Bristol



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