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TP1383 - Birgidale
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This trigpoint:
Is ranked joint 6676th with 67 other trigs (more).
Has a mean score of 5.33/10 (from 24 logged visits)
Was First logged: 19th Jun 2002
Has never been found intact
Was Last logged: 17th May 2018

Of the 24 logged visits,
7 recorded a location and of these....

All were within 43m
The average error was 12m
The closest was 2m

fergie fergie coinea coinea Clochandighter Clochandighter pharisee pharisee Haggis Hunter Haggis Hunter descarte1 descarte1 caroleengel caroleengel Birgidale Birgidale [Zoom In/Out] [Hide Labels]

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Logged Visits:

Not Logged 17th May 2018  09:36  by plet56

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Not Logged  Score: 7/10

Converted 25th Sep 2017  14:05  by campagvelocet

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Converted  Score: 5/10

Decent views. Some iold timers had driven almost to the summit from the west and managed to get their car stuck in the mud at the bend about 200m away.

Destroyed 29th Aug 2017  15:55  by jonglew

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Destroyed  Score: 5/10

Drove along the farm track off the B881 towards Birgidale Crieff Butts until farm a couple of hundred metres or so before a gate. Walked from there. Pillar has been replaced by a large professionally built cairn with plaque that refers to the trig. It may be that the pillar has been encased by the cairn, but I can find no evidence of this so have classified the trig as 'destroyed'.

The Cairn TP1383©jonglew
Top of the cairn - no spider TP1383©jonglew
Plaque TP1383©jonglew

Converted 27th Aug 2017  00:00  by caroleengel

Gridref: NS 08243 59020   FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Converted  Score: 5/10

Track from B881 (drive-able to NS077585 but permission to park would have to be given)

Remains 8th Oct 2016  13:20  by monkeydestructor

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Remains  Score: 7/10

Most people approach this one from the memorial car park to the east, but we thought we would see if could save a bit of a walk and approach from the west. Drove passed the farmhouse until we reached a gate, but it wasn't locked so carried on up the hill a bit. Got as far as the gate on the right, which was the west island way joining this track from the south. A deep muddy rut prevented us from driving any further, so left the car near the gate and walked the last 500m. Sign on the cairn points out that it was the former trig. Nice views too.

Birgidale ©monkeydestructor

Converted 25th Apr 2014  10:20  by trigging on an island

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Converted  Score: 7/10

First trig of the day on a long walk down to the south of the island from Rothesay.

Converted 29th Oct 2013  13:39  by Steve&Gill

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Converted  Score: 5/10

Converted 22nd Jul 2013  10:45  by Stratford Strollers

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Converted  Score: 6/10

Walked up the track from the memorial on the A844. An easy walk but the day was hot and the horse flies were out with a vengeance. Fortunately no midges though.

Converted 5th Jul 2013  13:41  by fergie

Gridref: NS 08200 59000   FB Number: NONE  Condition: Converted  Score: 6/10

Whilst walking the West Island Way came upon this monument. Am assuming the trigpoint is now encased within the monument

Birgidale Now encased within a monument

Converted 15th Jun 2013  14:00  by Johnoneill1916

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Converted  Score: 5/10

Nice cairn built in place of or over original. Right on West Island way. Views on the day were limited due to rain

Converted 11th Aug 2012  15:56  by coinea

Gridref: NS 08241 59018   FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Converted  Score: 2/10

Converted 11th Aug 2012  15:55  by Clochandighter

Gridref: NS 08242 59018   FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Converted  Score: 1/10

S8520 was DESTROYED BY VANDALS without OS consent. This was confirmed following a report in 2007. The pillar is probably still inside this cladding job. The cyan symbol is now deleted from the 1:50K (LR63) and 1:25K maps therefore the OS must deem this as destroyed. There is no name or date on the plaque affixed to this tomb so therefore by who or exactly when this was done remains unknown. The Island of Bute is nicely 'touristified' with the 'West Island Way' footpath network so it may have been done a part of that work. It is just such a shame that they chose to build around an iconic monument to map making rather than build a free standing monument independent of the triangulation pillar.

ex S8520 - Birgidale & GRP

Destroyed 29th Apr 2012  07:50  by Chalky

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Destroyed  Score: 7/10

Former trig replaced by a large round stone-built cairn.

Damaged 8th Jul 2011  10:21  by descarte1

Gridref: NS 08239 59024   FB Number: GONE  Condition: Damaged  Score: 6/10

Pillar has either been removed and replaced with this cairn or completely enclosed within it. The latter seems more likely due to the rather arbitrary cairn dimensions. Fairly low plateau but good intervisibility with other pillars on Bute. Parked by the memorial to the south-east and walked in along the mapped road. Easy going.

Damaged 24th Feb 2011  11:45  by MAC.HAWK

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Damaged  Score: 6/10

As previously noted the (rather nice) cairn is certainly big enough to envelop a standard trig pillar. I noted peregrinus entry but until convinced otherwise I took the statement - This Former Trig Point etc - to imply the pillar has been removed & replaced by the cairn. However, I found the following website: - giving us the following information --- The viewpoint cairn is the original trig point which has been eclosed with hewn stone and has a decorative and informative plaque affixed to it --- , no explanations but in all likelyhood due to damage (otherwise why?) and as such I now agree with peregrinus. Pretty good views in all directions, particularly to the west, although on todays visit it was rather overcast. Access a doddle on muddy, puddley track. NCOF!

Damaged 24th Feb 2011  11:45  by SUE-C

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Damaged  Score: 5/10

Destroyed 11th May 2007  00:00  by lonesome_cowboy_burt

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Destroyed  Score: 5/10

Carrying on along the West Island Way, very hard to miss!

Destroyed 3rd Mar 2007  12:00  by iainmac

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Destroyed  Score: 0/10

Cairn is large enough to contain the pillar.

Damaged 24th Dec 2006  11:00  by peregrinus

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Damaged  Score: 7/10

Stone pillar, no FB or spider; info board <This former trig point…> seems to suggest the trig has been encased. N side of track. Fine albeit grey view. FB was S8520 (OS). The OS commented on 5jan07 as follows: <The monument is indeed a pillar, it did have a flush bracket No S8520 and was last visited by us in 1977. The information was last sold to the public in 1982. So in 1982 it was still a usable pillar. My records still show it as a current pillar.> 22/7/09 reviewing my log, based on this OS info, Condition should be Damaged.

S8520 cairn top no spider ©peregrinus
Info board ©peregrinus
Info board ©peregrinus

Destroyed 12th Oct 2005  10:30  by Dallan72

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Destroyed  Score: 5/10

"Found" whilst Geocaching nearby.

Destroyed 2nd Apr 2005  13:00  by Haggis Hunter

Gridref: NS 08243 59018   FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Destroyed  Score: 10/10

Despite the trig now long gone, it now has a viewpoint in it's position, fantastic views of Bute from here. After bagging this we went down to the nearby Geocache.

HH at the pillar ©Haggis Hunter

Destroyed 2nd Apr 2005  00:13  by Firth of Forth

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Destroyed  Score: 6/10

Came with Haggis Hunter on our weekend trip to Bute.

On a warm early April day ©Firth of Forth

Damaged 20th May 2003  17:00  by pharisee

Gridref: NS 08249 59011   FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Damaged  Score: 5/10

Located on a hill at the southern end of the Isle of Bute. It stands beside a footpath known as “Lord James’ Ride”. The actual OS trig point has been replaced with a pillar built of cemented stone. There is a notice attached stating that the OS trig point once stood here but unfortunately makes no reference to the trig point’s original number. The thought occured to me that the new, circular, cairn is actually built around the original trig point but unfortunately there is no way of telling for sure.

The Cairn This monument stands where the trig point once stood.
Looking west The veiw to the west, towards the Sound of Bute

Converted 19th Jun 2002  11:34  by Cootking

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Converted  Score: 5/10

Visited all the other pillars driving on day in May, missed this one out. Long cycle this time as ferry fare expensive for short distance. Encased in a rocky coating now like a huge beehive - why? Maybe once all the others pillars have crumbled this will be 'unveiled' and become the mecca for baggers........

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