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TP1986 - Carnedd Dafydd
 
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Type :
Condition :
Remains Remains
Flush Bracket :
11252
OSGB36 Station :
SH57/2
Current use :
none
Historic use :
T:UK waypoint :
TP1986
County :
Gwynedd
Nearest town :
LLANRWST

OSGB36 trig archive spreadsheet - IW
Trig NameOriginal NameNew NameEASTINGNORTHINGHEIGHTORDERTYPE OF MARKComputing DateCLASS OF LEVELLINGDate of LevellingLEVELLING DATUMDESTROYED MARK INDICATORCOMMENTS
Carnedd DafyddSH57/2SH57S002266283.69363045.310.0002BLOCK01/06/195300
Carnedd DafyddSH57/2SH57S002266283.69363045.311045.4642PILLAR01/06/1953201/06/1953N1New FB 05/68. Dest 10/71

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There are 25 photos for this trigpoint (view album).

This trigpoint:
Is ranked joint 2066th with 11 other trigs (more).
Has a mean score of 6.42/10 (from 60 logged visits)
Was First logged: 30th Apr 1977
Has never been found intact
Was Last logged: 29th Jun 2019

Of the 60 logged visits,
8 recorded a location and of these....

All were within 95m
The average error was 21m
1 was exact

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Not Logged 29th Jun 2019  12:39  by Jeff Trig Point

Gridref: SH 66285 63044   FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Not Logged  Score: 5/10

Found remains, block with metal work. Intermittent views

©Jeff Trig Point


Not Logged 29th Jun 2019  12:39  by Jeff Trig Point

Gridref: SH 66285 63044   FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Not Logged  Score: 5/10

Found remains, block with metal work. Intermittent views

©Jeff Trig Point
©Jeff Trig Point


Remains 11th May 2019  11:20  by painterman61

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Remains  Score: 5/10

Found the remains misty no views very cold north winds.

trig ©painterman61
Angle iron ©painterman61
Sitting on my welsh namesake trig ©painterman61
Looking to Carnedd Dafydd from Carnedd llewelyn ©painterman61
My last Welsh 3000er Foel Grach ©painterman61


Destroyed 17th Nov 2018  11:19  by Jeff Trig Point

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Destroyed  Score: 8/10


Remains 14th Jul 2018  12:00  by Rupertal

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Remains  Score: 8/10

Mark is for the view not the remains


Remains 21st Jan 2017  13:09  by peregrinus

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Remains  Score: 5/10

Big piece of composite stone concrete n rebar in summit cairn. Up from Bethesda via the classic 3* scramble Crib Lem/Llech Ddu spur with Ben n Dominik on PMC meet, fine day out

Trig remains Large chunk in highest cairn
reinforcing bar


Remains 27th Sep 2016  12:30  by Dusty

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Remains  Score: 8/10

Large base and a few lower layers of stones found on cairn. Also lots of bits of concrete from base dotted about. Did not look for or know about the Block.

Remains
Remains
Remains


Couldn't find it 30th Aug 2016  12:36  by madeline

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Couldn't find it  Score: 6/10

No sign of it. Great views of Y Glyderau and Yr Wyddfa coming up from Pen Yr Ole Wen. Good view of Bethesda from Carnedd Dafydd.


Couldn't find it 30th Aug 2016  12:36  by madeline

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Couldn't find it  Score: 6/10

No sign of it. Great views of Y Glyderau and Yr Wyddfa coming up from Pen Yr Ole Wen. Good view of Bethesda from Carnedd Dafydd.


Not Logged 5th Oct 2015  11:44  by VinceTP

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Not Logged  Score: 5/10


Couldn't find it 19th Sep 2015  11:29  by jonglew

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Couldn't find it  Score: 6/10

Could locate no signs of any remains. If they are extant then I missed them. No photographs since 2013 - have they succumbed to the weather?


Couldn't find it 7th Aug 2015  11:30  by DanTrig

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Couldn't find it  Score: 10/10

12 miles walked up Braich Ty Du, to col then up to Carnedd Dafydd back to col and onto Pen Yr Ole Wen. I didn't even realise there was a trig up here until I looked at this website. Clear but high cloud, great views. Later that day drove and walked a small circular to bag Mwdwl-Eithin (Nant Heilyn) trig.


Remains 10th Jul 2014  12:01  by nozzer

Gridref: SH 66289 63049   FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Remains  Score: 3/10

done on a walk from Ogwen Cottage to Aber falls, 2nd visit first was in 1970 can not remember if trig was standing


Remains 10th Jul 2014  12:01  by Downfaller

Gridref: SH 66289 63049   FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Remains  Score: 3/10

Done on a route out from Ogwen cottage to Aber Falls. low cloud prevented us getting the best visibility of the high level route -none the less a good days walking.


Remains 25th Jun 2013  14:05  by Phil Clayton

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Remains  Score: 10/10

Above date is most recent of four visits, first on 15/06/1980. On 29/05/1985 a brass stud was observed in a block of stone, presumably the remains of trig pillar.


Damaged 8th Mar 2013  15:21  by Triggers

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Damaged  Score: 8/10

remains of a stone built trig in cairn. high score as stunning day

Carnedd Dafydd ©Triggers


Not Logged 2nd Mar 2013  00:00  by NightCrawler

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Not Logged  Score: 5/10

Beautiful day, some snow and ice on the ground


Couldn't find it 7th Oct 2012  18:10  by Merthyr_boy

Gridref: SH 66300 63000   FB Number: 11252  Condition: Couldn't find it  Score: 5/10


Not Logged 19th Nov 2011  14:24  by rhosrobin

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Not Logged  Score: 5/10


Destroyed 10th Nov 2011  10:56  by dangorman

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Destroyed  Score: 5/10

An amazing walk even thought the TP is missing. Unbelievable views across the tops and onto Anglesey.

Who needs a TP when you\'ve got these views!!!! ©dangorman


Destroyed 18th Sep 2011  13:00  by Chalky

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Destroyed  Score: 5/10

Remains of a stone-built trig amongst the shelter-cairn stones. Previously visited this Welsh 1000m top 09/05/87 no trig details noted.


Destroyed 16th Sep 2011  16:15  by Tuco Ramirez

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Destroyed  Score: 5/10

As previous logs Not Here, Shelter here for a while from the driving rain & wind, No info available


Not Logged 6th Sep 2011  17:24  by PeterKirkwood

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Not Logged  Score: 5/10


Destroyed 3rd Aug 2011  11:00  by martinc

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Destroyed  Score: 5/10

Site visited on final leg of Cambrian Way. I can only assume that the piece of angle iron sticking out of a piece of concrete in the wall of the shelter is part of the internal metal work of the pillar. Low cloud and very limited view.

©martinc


Remains 3rd Jun 2011  12:00  by Andy West

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Remains  Score: 5/10


Destroyed 21st Aug 2010  01:40  by Trigger

FB Number: 11252  Condition: Destroyed  Score: 5/10


Remains 15th Aug 2010  18:33  by ProSpec

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Remains  Score: 5/10

Long gone.

Remains bottom right?


Destroyed 5th Jun 2010  07:10  by IgnoredAmbience

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Destroyed  Score: 5/10

Welsh 3000s attempt with IC Fellwanderers.


Destroyed 23rd Jan 2010  12:10  by IgnoredAmbience

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Destroyed  Score: 5/10

Wasn't even aware there was a trig here until I checked T:UK after, so certainly missing. Hardly any visibility, and plenty of snow along the ridge. On a circular route from the A5 via Ffynnon Lloe, then along the ridge to Carnedd Llewellyn and back south to the road. With the Imperial College Fellwanderers.


Remains 22nd Aug 2009  11:45  by asbown

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Remains  Score: 8/10

from llyn ogwen via pen yr ole wen, great days walking on a beautiful clear day.



Destroyed 18th Apr 2009  11:45  by dugswell2

FB Number: NO FB  Condition: Destroyed  Score: 8/10

Sunny clear day with great views but cool on long summit ridges.


Destroyed 21st Mar 2009  10:20  by Terry L

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Destroyed  Score: 10/10

Trig pillar long gone - perhaps removed when ancient "Cairn of David" remodelled into present back-to-back wind shelters. Nevertheless, this is one of the great Welsh mountain tops [4th highest]. Tremendous ascent from Gerlan up the long ridge of Mynydd Du, part of the stunning mountain scenery of Cwm Llafar. Public. National Trust. Snowdonia National Park.

Carnedd Dafydd summit [1044m] - did pillar stand here?


Destroyed 15th Aug 2008  12:30  by stignest

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Destroyed  Score: 8/10

A great summit.. barely a climb from pen yr ole wen but all the same a big un. from bethesda..on way to penmaenmawr


Destroyed 14th Jun 2008  17:50  by weekender

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Destroyed  Score: 6/10

RW, DrAli, MrTuckle, RichS, BC, KT


Destroyed 7th Aug 2007  13:23  by Keith Stevens

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Destroyed  Score: 7/10

Only rocks on this summit! Middle of August and it was absolutely freezing on the top - thick cloud and blowing a gale up the west side of the ridge. I was glad to get off - no appetite for scrabbling around after bits of rock that might have a brass stud!

Carnedd Dafydd summit


Remains 15th Jul 2007  07:00  by trigging on an island

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Remains  Score: 9/10

Visited here very early this July morning en route to the top of Snowdon, after having started walking from home at midnight. I'd already aborted two previous attempts due to bad weather in June. The first time I got as far as the Foel Grach Mountain Refuge, and the second, just to the Roman Road over Rowen. The conditions this day were favourable most of the way and I was able to continue the walk to its conclusion over Glyder Fawr, and up and down Snowdon comfortably by late afternoon. Revisited 19/07/2013 to have a proper look for pillar remains (pictured).

Remains of Carnedd Dafydd pillar


Destroyed 9th Jun 2007  13:30  by Father Ted

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Destroyed  Score: 8/10

I hauled myself up here from Foel Meirch where we had just met someone completing their last Welsh Nutall. I unfortunatly blurted out the fact that a new Nutall had been discovered the week previous, Carnedd y Filiast North Top (a.k.a. Y Fronllwyd). I hadn't meant to take the wind out of his sails, it just sort of came out! Poor man! Anyway, now sign of a trig p here. I had a quick look for the remining piece without any luck.


Destroyed 28th Apr 2007  12:00  by Boneychest

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Destroyed  Score: 8/10

Great views, no pillar.


Remains 18th Feb 2007  00:00  by caroleengel

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Remains  Score: 5/10


Destroyed 23rd Oct 2006  12:13  by rhayader_wanderer

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Destroyed  Score: 8/10

Revisit en route to 7 tops as I close in on this yers welsh 2000's round


Remains 31st May 2006  00:00  by Sprog

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Remains  Score: 10/10


Remains 21st Jan 2006  15:00  by peregrinus

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Remains  Score: 8/10

Said to have been a faier few recognisable chunks as recently as 2003, in cairn. 5 minutes searching today revealed only a single 20x30cm piece of flat-faced concrete, apparently trig remnant. Not in summit cairn but the one c. 30m to the ENE. Lovely springlike afternoon, good (hazy) views, great location. Mercia fellrunners training run from Pinnacle Cafe at Capel Curig - great breakfast ;-)

11252 fragment of trig ©peregrinus
11252 fragment & summit ©peregrinus


Destroyed 28th Jun 2002  10:40  by rhayader_wanderer

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Destroyed  Score: 8/10

latest in a string of trips since '88 never realiesed it used to have a trig though. Following recent comments on removal date I will look over old slides for a photo


Not Logged 29th May 2002  10:59  by splash

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Not Logged  Score: 7/10


Not Logged 28th Jul 2001  00:00  by IWC

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Not Logged  Score: 6/10


Remains 26th May 2001  14:54  by sven

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Remains  Score: 5/10

A tragic end to a pillar on a desolate summit. One more 3000 to go on the day.


Destroyed 17th Jan 2000  11:25  by fasgadh

FB Number: 11252  Condition: Destroyed  Score: 5/10

This one has been long gone. I have heard that there are bits of concrete in the cairn, but I have never noticed them. I have been told that there was a disintegrating pillar here in 1968. There have been two pillars here.

The summit of Carnedd Dafydd, no pillar. Another one that went a long time ago.


Destroyed 2nd Sep 1999  14:00  by Marshsand

FB Number: 11252  Condition: Destroyed  Score: 7/10

Visited on the "Nuttall" Carnedd Llewelyn and Western Carneddau walk (1.1) but the weather prevented a visit to Yr Elen. On a second visit on 07.05.02 the weather again forced abandonment of an Yr Elen visit and Pen yr Helgi Ddu was also omitted.


Not Logged 3rd Jul 1999  13:09  by Foinavon

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Not Logged  Score: 8/10


Destroyed 18th Oct 1998  12:00  by lonesome_cowboy_burt

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Destroyed  Score: 8/10

Up via Pen yr Ole Wen and return over Pen yr Helgi Du. A light dusting of snow, but no trig.


Not Logged 20th Jul 1997  12:00  by peregrinus

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Not Logged  Score: 8/10

Been there many times, don't recall seeing trig or remains, never searched


Destroyed 28th Jun 1996  12:25  by Crazy

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Destroyed  Score: 5/10

Cloudy and no view but enjoyed the Cambrian Way ascent over Pen yr Ole Wen rather than the direct route. Definitely no pillar on my visit.


Destroyed 27th May 1996  12:00  by Hartryggers

Gridref: SH 66296 63053   FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Destroyed  Score: 5/10


Destroyed 4th May 1996  19:52  by swampysean

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Destroyed  Score: 5/10


Destroyed 16th Jul 1994  00:00  by mickandshane

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Destroyed  Score: 4/10

Definitely no trig here, (it was destroyed in 1971).Last FB number was 11252.


Not Logged 21st Aug 1993  08:31  by Robert Kemp

Gridref: SH 66284 63045   FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Not Logged  Score: 5/10


Destroyed 17th Apr 1987  14:00  by arranc

Gridref: SH 66200 63000   FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Destroyed  Score: 8/10


Destroyed 20th Apr 1985  12:00  by CJO

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Destroyed  Score: 6/10

with polytechnic mountaineering club walk. Visted several times since


Destroyed 15th Jun 1979  15:00  by desperate dan

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Destroyed  Score: 9/10

Number 10 of the 14 3000 footers done this day and feeling a bit jaded. In the clouds. Have climbed it other times and it is a fine peak. However, no trig.


Destroyed 30th Apr 1977  09:30  by Bergfuehrer

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Destroyed  Score: 7/10

Caernarfonshire. No recollection of seeing a trig here on day doing the Welsh 3000's.



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