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TP2746 - Deadwater Moor
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OSGB36 trig archive spreadsheet - IW
Deadwater MoorNT72/8NT72S008362570.30597174.33569.3662PILLAR01/06/1957201/06/1958N0

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There are 32 photos for this trigpoint (view album).

This trigpoint:
Is ranked joint 3540th with 42 other trigs (more).
Has a mean score of 5.95/10 (from 40 logged visits)
Was First logged: 9th May 1991
Was Last found intact: 7th Jul 2010
Was Last logged: 9th Sep 2019

Of the 40 logged visits,
9 recorded a location and of these....

All were within 101m
The average error was 18m
The closest was 1m

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By Nick&Rosie
Deadwater Moor
Deadwater Moor
By Aye Jimmy

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Logged Visits:

Damaged 9th Sep 2019  14:37  by jonglew

Gridref: NY 62570 97179   FB Number: S7917  Condition: Damaged  Score: 6/10

From Peel Fell via Mid Fell. Pillar is in a sorry state with severe damage to the top leaving the spider completely exposed. Sight holes now below ground level so not checked. Nice views though.

Pillar TP2746©jonglew
Spider TP2746©jonglew
Flush Bracket TP2746©jonglew

Damaged 8th Sep 2019  11:21  by Nick&Rosie

FB Number: S7917  Condition: Damaged  Score: 9/10

08/09/19 (Second visit) A great weather forecast convinced us that today was the day to revisit DWM, and bag Carlin Tooth into the bargain. Unlike first visit, as we approached Kielder along the Forest Drive the summit of DWM was the only place actually in cloud, however once we'd walked out of the trees and onto the moor the cloud had lifted / burned off and the fantastic views this hill has to offer were resplendent. If it wasn't for all the radar paraphernalia obstructing some of those views I'd have given this a 10/10. 08/11/17 (First Visit) Stunning morning setting off, from Kielder village the masts and golf ball were clearly seen...after emerging from the forest track onto the moorland section of the climb we walked into a bank of freezing fog wich refused to shift. By the time we got to the summit we could hardly see the golf ball from the TP...a significant disappointment!

View North 08/09/19
View East 08/09/19
View South 08/09/19
View West 08/11/17

Damaged 29th Dec 2018  12:45  by weekender

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Damaged  Score: 7/10

Damaged 28th Dec 2017  12:42  by paulxtr

FB Number: S7917  Condition: Damaged  Score: 8/10

Parked in the entrance to Lightpipe at Chubbies Knowe. Walked up forest tracks, cutting off a significant corner by taking the mtb red route. Extensive panorama from the summit. Sheltered from the icy wind in the unusual 'Specere' windshelter.

Deadwater Moor ©paulxtr
Deadwater Moor ©paulxtr

Damaged 3rd Oct 2017  12:00  by Borderer

FB Number: S7917  Condition: Damaged  Score: 7/10

From the church at Ravenshill, good forestry tracks all of the way to the summit. Although mild and sunny strong winds meant that I had to use the wind shelter at the top. 2 hours up and down including a break at the top.


Damaged 14th Sep 2017  13:15  by stignest

FB Number: S7917  Condition: Damaged  Score: 6/10

Another pillar which has been knocked about a fair bit.. most of the material around spider missing. walked in via peel and mid fell.. stayed dry from above but wet underfoot. nice to see Kielder water.

Damaged 22nd Apr 2017  14:01  by nichex

FB Number: S7917  Condition: Damaged  Score: 5/10

Trig, mountain bike and view ©nichex

Damaged 29th Jan 2017  00:00  by carolje

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Damaged  Score: 5/10

Damaged 16th Jan 2017  19:54  by Chalky

FB Number: S7917  Condition: Damaged  Score: 3/10

Damaged top exposing spider which has neither cap or plug. Not on HP.

Damaged 14th Jan 2017  15:30  by sheepsocks

FB Number: S7917  Condition: Damaged  Score: 7/10

Left car on through road at Chubbies Knowe to the south, then walked up along the forest tracks. Met a few off-road cyclists, despite it being sub-zero with a couple of inches of snow cover. Good views from the top into Scotland, across the Kielder forests, and up to a snow-covered Cheviot.

Damaged 8th Jan 2017  00:00  by beckroad

FB Number: S7917  Condition: Damaged  Score: 9/10

Parked near Kittyhurst Cottage and walked to Rushy Knowe, Jenny Storie's Stone, Peel Fell, Mid Fell and on to the trig point near all the masts. The complete lack of views and poor visibility from start to finish made the accomplishment to reach this pillar that more satisfying. The surface top of the pillar is badly weathered, exposing all legs of the spider.

Damaged 18th Sep 2016  12:19  by Aye Jimmy

Gridref: NY 62571 97175   FB Number: S7917  Condition: Damaged  Score: 4/10

Now has a couple of skips for company.

Deadwater Moor The trig.
Deadwater Moor The FB.
Deadwater Moor Top.
Deadwater Moor No golf ball at the moment, antennae exposed to the elements.

Damaged 8th Mar 2015  13:00  by CJO

Gridref: NY 62568 97177   FB Number: S7917  Condition: Damaged  Score: 5/10

cap missing spider exposed. Via Peel Fell very wet underfoot

Deadwater Moor
Deadwater Moor exposed spider

Damaged 25th Jun 2014  13:04  by amblerbob

Gridref: NY 62566 97175   FB Number: S7917  Condition: Damaged  Score: 5/10

From Youth Hostel, now onto Mid Fell and Peel Fell.

Damaged 30th Mar 2014  13:01  by jrcking

FB Number: S7917  Condition: Damaged  Score: 4/10

They call the route a black route for MTB, but it's not difficult, just involves a long slog up hill. Did it on a unicycle...

Not Logged 20th Feb 2014  12:00  by We TRye hard

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Not Logged  Score: 5/10

Retrospective log. Walking trip - sure of date but not condition of trig.

Damaged 10th Apr 2013  14:44  by peebs

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Damaged  Score: 5/10


Damaged 8th Feb 2013  10:48  by stan toon

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Damaged  Score: 8/10

Superb views. Top of pilar severely damaged. Walked up from Keilder with the intention of going onto Peel Fell but too much snow put a halt to it.

©stan toon

Damaged 8th Sep 2012  13:00  by Andy West

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Damaged  Score: 5/10

Damaged 22nd Mar 2012  10:00  by asbown

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Damaged  Score: 7/10

Up from Keider and on to Peel fell,back down on the border path.

Slightly damaged 7th Jul 2010  14:44  by Phil Clayton

FB Number: S7917  Condition: Slightly damaged  Score: 7/10

Round of Peel Fell, Kielder Stane & Deadwater while tracking river North Tyne. See my book "Headwaters - Walking to British River Sources"!

Damaged 12th Jun 2010  11:50  by Sandman

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Damaged  Score: 4/10

On to Peel Fell and Carlin Tooth


Damaged 23rd Nov 2009  00:00  by Sprog

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Damaged  Score: 5/10

Damaged 19th Aug 2009  12:50  by mtb mick

Gridref: NY 62600 97200   FB Number: S7917  Condition: Damaged  Score: 5/10

Visited on the Kielder Forest red route mountain bike ride. A great trail that has lots of exciting features, including a long ascent up to the trig.

Highest point of the Kielder red route at 569 metres

Damaged 4th Jul 2009  09:37  by agentmancuso

Gridref: NY 62570 97166   FB Number: S7917  Condition: Damaged  Score: 5/10

From forest entrance a mile north of Kielder. A new (and not very efficient..) windbreak/shelter thing has appeared on top to add to the general clutter. On to Peel Fell.

Damaged 17th Apr 2009  14:48  by Moacky

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Damaged  Score: 7/10

Out mountain biking from Kielder.

Damaged 6th Aug 2008  00:00  by caroleengel

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Damaged  Score: 5/10

Damaged 22nd Sep 2007  13:40  by coinea

Gridref: NY 62571 97174   FB Number: S7917  Condition: Damaged  Score: 6/10

Damaged 22nd Sep 2007  13:22  by Clochandighter

Gridref: NY 62572 97172   FB Number: S7917  Condition: Damaged  Score: 7/10

Pillar on west side of mapped track. Pillar top has been maliciously damaged in a failed attempt to remove the entire spider - they only got away with the OS cap. Spider centre open. One (left) sight hole open. FB faces west ~270 away from track. Secondary station in Block NT72, Jedburgh. Completed 16th March 1954. Route to summit via mapped tracks which are also mountain bike trails. Parked in layby at NY623944. Views include Rubers Law, Eildon Mid Hill and Cheviot. Clutter of comms masts at summit including the striking golf ball with its illuminated tower. Pillar & FB photographed 22/09/2007, GRP.

S7917 - Deadwater Moor pillar & FB

Damaged 16th Jul 2006  12:00  by peregrinus

FB Number: S7917  Condition: Damaged  Score: 7/10

No cap or plug, top damaged, apparently by an attempt on the spider. S of mast at summit, by track. Expansive Kielderesque view. Nice patch of in-fruit Cloudberry by path near top. Re-visited in a spare 2hrs from Kielder campsite.

S7917 fb ©peregrinus
S7917 top damaged ©peregrinus
S7917 trig ©peregrinus
S7917 Cloudberry ©peregrinus
S7917 trig ©peregrinus
S7917 trig damaged ©peregrinus

Damaged 9th Jul 2005  11:00  by dugswell2

FB Number: S7917  Condition: Damaged  Score: 6/10

A good wander up track over Deadwater Fell + Mid Fell and onto Pell Fell. Damp.

Not Logged 27th Jan 2005  12:12  by Beds Clangers

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Not Logged  Score: 5/10

Radar thing, is for RAF Spadeadam. Working on the site so quick drive up

Good condition 12th Jan 2003  10:45  by sleepwalker

FB Number: S7917  Condition: Good  Score: 7/10

Walked up from Kielder along the icy forest roads. Misty on the tops so no views, visited during a round of Mid and Peel Fells.

Good condition 6th Aug 2000  12:41  by arranc

Gridref: NY 62500 97100   FB Number: S7917  Condition: Good  Score: 7/10

my lastEnglish Marilyn

Good condition 24th Sep 1998  00:00  by mickandshane

FB Number: S7917  Condition: Good  Score: 7/10

Next to some sort of radar thing. Plug with heavily indented lettering.

Good condition 12th Apr 1997  15:15  by fasgadh

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Good  Score: 5/10

No boy's toys, just masts.... Returning from Peel Fell

Good condition 1st Apr 1996  12:04  by andyc

FB Number: S7917  Condition: Good  Score: 7/10

Gates unlocked so drove to the top with Isobel and Vernon ford. Regarded strangely by repairmen who were also up there.

Good condition 10th Aug 1994  14:15  by Historian

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Good  Score: 6/10

A slog up from Kielder on a very hot day.

Good condition 16th Jul 1994  11:00  by Particle

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Good  Score: 5/10

Good condition 9th May 1991  17:00  by Bridgeman

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Good  Score: 5/10

Late afternoon walk up track leaving road to south.

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