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TP3232 - Fort Borstal
 
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Grid reference :
Type :
Condition :
Good Good condition
Flush Bracket :
S3489
OSGB36 Station :
TQ87/T117
Current use :
none
Historic use :
T:UK waypoint :
TP3232
County :
Kent
Nearest town :
CHATHAM

OSGB36 trig archive spreadsheet - IW
Trig NameOriginal NameNew NameEASTINGNORTHINGHEIGHTORDERTYPE OF MARKComputing DateCLASS OF LEVELLINGDate of LevellingLEVELLING DATUMDESTROYED MARK INDICATORCOMMENTS
Fort BorstalTQ87/T117TQ87T117573323.37166443.2793.8693PILLAR01/06/1946101/09/1951N0

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There are 17 photos for this trigpoint (view album).

This trigpoint:
Is ranked joint 6561st with 91 other trigs (more).
Has a mean score of 5.41/10 (from 17 logged visits)
Was First logged: 16th May 1999
Was Last logged: 7th Apr 2024

Of the 17 logged visits,
3 recorded a location and of these....

All were within 10m
The average error was 3m
2 were exact

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Logged Visits:

Good condition 7th Apr 2024  15:00  by Jimbode

Gridref: TQ 73323 66443   FB Number: S3489  Condition: Good  Score: 5/10

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Inaccessible 8th Jun 2020  18:15  by COVID Trig Point Challenge

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Inaccessible  Score: 5/10

I went forewarned that I wouldn't be able to access this one but I also couldn't see it from the private road. I felt it should have been visible above the car in my photo but perhaps the trees are.covering it again. I read this was now residential but it doesn't look like it.

Pillar should be above the chimney which is visible above the car


Unreachable but visible 3rd May 2019  12:50  by dugswell2

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Unreachable but visible  Score: 5/10

Trig now visible but unreachable due to attitude of owners.


Unreachable but visible 9th Nov 2018  09:09  by jonglew

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Unreachable but visible  Score: 5/10

Can easily be seen from the gate. Didn't bother trying for access given the owners' form with casual visitors.

Pillar Location TP3232©jonglew
Pillar TP3232©jonglew


Unreachable but visible 12th Oct 2017  15:50  by Mickandkim

Gridref: TQ 73323 66443   FB Number: S3489  Condition: Unreachable but visible  Score: 5/10

No access but easy to see now that trees have gone


Unreachable but visible 24th Aug 2017  11:58  by slateloose

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Unreachable but visible  Score: 5/10

Not sure if the person we spoke to is the owner but the welcome is what I would call hostile, no chance of access come back late like never. So took photo of trig from gate. Strange where the anger come from !


Not Logged 28th Apr 2017  16:14  by Just-us-Two

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Not Logged  Score: 5/10


Unreachable but visible 11th Apr 2017  16:44  by CJO

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Unreachable but visible  Score: 5/10

Followed some local dog walkers and "blended in" and got a sighting in passing. Locals said it was a stables and her sister had a horse in there in the past.

Fort Borstal


Inaccessible 12th Feb 2016  00:00  by caroleengel

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Inaccessible  Score: 5/10

Despite two letters (and offer of a "charitable donation") both ignored, called on spec but was firmly refused and marched off the property.


Not Logged 21st May 2012  09:15  by Dumfriesmike

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Not Logged  Score: 5/10

Viewed location from the North Downs Way. Didn't try and access area.


Good condition 28th Nov 2010  15:45  by peregrinus

FB Number: S3489  Condition: Good  Score: 8/10

vgc, no cap or plug, FB facing west, S above numbers, 3rd digit damaged. In hawthorn scrub at top of bank just W of remains of a WW2 gun emplacement. Also a very nice (unusually, horizontal format) cut BM a few m to SW. Fairly typical Palmerston Fort, but with more concrete used in construction than is usual. 5th? time lucky. Visited by prior arrangement - many thanks to Mick and Christine for their hospitality. What a fascinating place to live!

FB ©peregrinus
Top open ©peregrinus
Trig front ©peregrinus
Trig back ©peregrinus
Trig in scrub ©peregrinus
Cut BM (horizontal) near pillar


Couldn't find it 29th Oct 2010  12:46  by Arnand

FB Number: S3489  Condition: Couldn't find it  Score: 6/10

Had high hopes of being the first to get some decent pics of this but was left disappointed. Location on top of Fort is now heavily overgrown & couldnt even glimpse the pillar. Will have to get permission from owners of Fort for a look next time.

Spot it if you can ©Arnand


Unreachable but visible 21st Mar 2010  12:00  by peregrinus

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Unreachable but visible  Score: 5/10

4th time lucky(ish). Back with the telescope, no leaves out yet and the pillar is clearly visible, although the hawthorn has grown up a lot since MCL pics 7 years ago. Standing 10m R of entrance, see a pole with a dish fixed to it. Just L of this is a concrete structure halfway up the bank. The trig is just visible above and slightly R of this structure. Difficult to photograph without proper digiscoping kit but I got some usable images. There is currently work under way on the structure some way R of the trig, and also at the prison as it happens.

Trig early a.m.
Trig in centre


Not Logged 29th Mar 2008  12:00  by peregrinus

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Not Logged  Score: 6/10

I thought my luck was in when a white van passed me on the way up, but they dont welcome casual visitors. A careful binocular scan of the area in question R of the entrance failed to find any signs of trig - presumably hidden by vegetation.


Unreachable but visible 26th Apr 2006  13:52  by Griefmiester

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Unreachable but visible  Score: 5/10

As previous log - this is a no go area now. big fence, dogs and keep out signs - I think the pillar can just be seen on the right hand bank.


Inaccessible 18th Apr 2003  16:00  by MCL

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Inaccessible  Score: 5/10

Since 1999, and Sapper's visit, the fort seems to have become private property and is guarded by fierce dogs. I could only get a long-distance photo of the top of the pillar so I know it is still there.

The Pillar ...from the nearest available point
..and the bit of the picture we are interested in


Good condition 16th May 1999  15:08  by Sapper

Gridref: TQ 73315 66449   FB Number: S3489  Condition: Good  Score: 7/10

On top of an interesting fort next to the young offenders institution! Not easy to get to.



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