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9th Mar 2024  15:30  by AlexKendall87

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26th Jan 2024  10:20  by Izzy Watts

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15th Oct 2023  13:50  by onemanandhisboywalking

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Lovely walk up (steep!) via Castell Dinas, Y Grib and Pen y Manllwyn. No pillar at this location. Stunning views though right across the central Beacons and beyond.

15th Oct 2023  12:01  by Hartryggers

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Parked in the small car park Pengenffordd  £2 honesty box followed the route named the Dragons Back > Castell Dinas > Pen y Grib > WAUN FACH (Trig pillar missing on Gwynydd Bach)

1st Sep 2023  11:25  by Twomers

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20th May 2023  09:57  by Catherineraine

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4th Mar 2023  11:25  by Jodie-trigs

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Parked at Dinas Castle Inn and followed the route over the Dragons Back. Trigpoint converted to a stone with OS plaque. Good views even with the mist.

Gwynydd Bach Trigpoint

21st Feb 2023  08:00  by pljg

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Reached a little after dawn, coming up from the Hermitage.

Waun Fach? ©pljg
Sunrise on the way up ©pljg

19th Nov 2022  15:50  by Seth7,CLJ &RLJ

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Second of the day with fading light just made it before our deadline of 4 to make it back in time before dark as it turned out needed to use our head torches for our decent from LHK, for the first time this year. Plate still there with base, had a drink and snack before venturing back flanked by bags of stone delivered by the busy helicopter all afternoon.

CLJ At the trig

3rd Sep 2022  14:00  by Foxy

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After walking The Dragons Back with Dearne Valley Walking Group we continued to the site of this trig at Waun Fach. All that remains is some rubble and a flat rock bearing the initials OS. Views are OK.

The stone base with OS initials©Foxy
The view ©Foxy
Members of Dearne Valley Walking Group & others©Foxy

30th Jul 2022  11:25  by janineharris44

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3/4 from Llanbedr. Headed up via Table Mountain and the Cambrian Way. Waun Fach shrouded in cloud, so no views today. The original trig point has been replaced with an OS marker stone.

©janineharris44
©janineharris44

22nd Jul 2022  12:33  by MDK

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Shrouded in mist today, occasionally on the way down we caught glimpses of what must be splendid scenery.

2nd Apr 2022  15:37  by JoeNTMY

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Part of a 17 mile circular walk with Duncan68

2nd Apr 2022  15:37  by Duncan68

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26th Mar 2022  09:23  by wandering_rjt

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Came from Gospel Pass. Great views all round.

8th Feb 2022  13:13  by DeniseMc

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There's a flat concrete slab with metal ground level plaque saying OS. Presumably the remains of the trig? My last Welsh Marilyn and the concrete made a good table for whisky and cake for our group. Foggy and windy. Nearby paths have stone slabs which help in the peaty ground.

20th Jan 2022  15:00  by Dmorgan2508

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29th Nov 2021  12:29  by retired trigger

FB Number: OS  Condition: Converted  Score: 5/10

13th Oct 2021  12:30  by kme

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13th Oct 2021  12:30  by kme

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13th Oct 2021  12:30  by SebastienCale

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Came up Y Grib and then back via a quick diversion to Mynydd Llysiau. Nice cool day in cloud on the top.

5th May 2021  04:44  by GrowlerOutdoor

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Found with KRISTTIM and Piggy

Pig on Trig ©GrowlerOutdoor

29th Nov 2020  13:00  by embatt83

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7th Oct 2020  14:27  by reyjam

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17th Sep 2020  09:06  by KodaRed

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made it ©KodaRed

1st Sep 2020  15:46  by BarryHorton

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it ain't there.??

30th Aug 2020  18:14  by Katy

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no pillar, just an OS plaque

23rd Aug 2020  07:38  by KodaRed

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we made it ©KodaRed

22nd Aug 2020  08:13  by lboutside

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Interesting little rock formation then a bolt on a big slab, not much to look at as the clouds had rolled in but definitely helped me figure out where I was!

7th Aug 2020  17:27  by trigging on an island

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Very hot day but excellent walking up here. Great place to stop for a belated lunch break and cool off before continuing on along my way.

11th Jul 2020  15:06  by Juliebfitness

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11th Jul 2020  15:06  by Juliebfitness

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21st Mar 2020  07:53  by KodaRed

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©KodaRed

21st Mar 2020  07:53  by KodaRed

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29th Dec 2019  12:11  by Megan

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23rd Jul 2019  14:51  by NormanW

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16th Jun 2019  12:05  by BRISTOLIAN

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Pillar now replaced with large OS rivet.

Gwynedd Bach location. ©BRISTOLIAN

2nd May 2019  10:41  by robcross

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cracking walk anyway

6th Apr 2019  11:30  by gower lad

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2/6 on Black Dragon Challenge event from Crickhowell (formerly the Black Mountain Roundabout). Pillar long gone. I first crossed summit in 1981 and it was gone then. Bleak high plateau rather than a summit but great views to W,N and E, Howling with snow on ground today. In the last 2 years or so a hard track has been put in from Pen Y Gadair Fawr across the peat beds, this will certainly help reduce the foot erosion but looses the wilderness feel.

7th Sep 2018  12:00  by newestindustry

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12th May 2018  12:10  by The Coachmans Pair

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Doing the Big Black Mountain Challenge today so decided to collect the trigs along the way. Ten hours and two minutes from start to finish on an ideal day for walking. Just an OS stud at ground level.

All that is left Trigpoint missing, just a stud at ground level.©The Coachmans Pair

19th Mar 2018  14:46  by nb221

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24th Feb 2018  11:44  by nb221

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13th May 2017  12:54  by Captainbob542

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Bagged while doing the Black Mountain Challenge. Nothing visible here.

26th Mar 2017  14:00  by Wayne Mac

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Along with Pen Y Manllwyn and Pen Y Gadair Fawr

1st Dec 2016  08:21  by g4wsb

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SOTA GW/SW-001. Good walk from west ground hard hard frost. Not sure about where this concrete is old trig.

©g4wsb
©g4wsb
©g4wsb

15th Oct 2016  11:15  by AsherMarley

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not sure if this is the remains Not sure if it is the pillar remains, was in exact spot where pillar should be

18th Sep 2016  14:00  by Richofsebast

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Really enjoyed the walk up from Grwyne Fawr car park via Gadair Fawr. Mission was to find the fallen over trig pillar - but it's gone. Presumably taken away when they were carrying out work on the surrounding paths. Lovely views over the Hay valley.

Where the Pillar Wasnt ©Richofsebast
Wonderful Walk ©Richofsebast

15th Sep 2016  14:10  by ltrc

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14th Aug 2016  15:11  by Griefmiester

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Parking on the Gospel Pass then over Lord Herifords Knob/Twmpa, Rhos Dirion, Pen-Y-Manllwyn, Waun Fach, Pen-Y Gadair Fawr, Back Via Gryne Fawr, Rhiw-Y-Fan, back over Lord Herifords Knob/Twmpa. The Converted Pillar has gone, there is however a lump of concrete in the same location, not sure if remains, but cant think why else concrete would be there? There is also another lump a few meters to the SW (ish) that does not look OS but it has got a "Bolt" type thing on it. Thoughts? Amazing walk and views today.

It has gone!!
Remians??
What is this? lookslike some form of "Bolt"

13th Aug 2016  13:51  by Stevie Boy

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Waun Fach, highest point in the Black M'tains, 811m. Great walk up via Y Grib from the west. Sadly, due to extensive repair work, the large stone/trig has now gone, just nothing there (that I could see). Chatted to a local lady, who was doing amateur radio, up there. She said that she could remember the pillar itself, years ago, but that the large stone had disappeared recently. Shame, the highest point in the Black M'tains deserves some sort of monument. Views good, we carried on to Pen y Gadair Fawr, at 800m is the 2nd highest point, and the 360 views here were superb. Nice weather, great day - apart from no trig!

No large stone to be seen, just this smaller concrete block 811m
Waun Fach from the south

6th Aug 2016  11:10  by Juliebfitness

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A tough climb from the Dragons back and upto Waun Fach. Spectacular views all around trig is missing extensive groundwork going on

Gelert & Laika Top of waun fach

4th May 2016  00:00  by Ronaldo333

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5th Mar 2016  12:31  by underhill

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26th Aug 2015  17:00  by aetheric

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All I could find was a lump of concrete with one straight casting edge that looked like the lower corner of the pillar.

Surviving remains? Lump of concrete with one cast edge

3rd Jul 2015  16:18  by Robert Kemp

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11th Apr 2015  11:02  by philpb

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Ground work in progress at site

Site

11th Apr 2015  08:50  by richard ball

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The remains of this trig point have been removed from the hill as part of a peat land restoration project. The Brecon Beacons National Park Authority is undertaking work to revegetate the exposed peat in this area in order to minimise erosion

25th Dec 2014  09:21  by g4wsb

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4th visit todate,Christmas walk.

©g4wsb
©g4wsb

7th Sep 2014  14:00  by Ramblingpaul

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29th Mar 2014  13:00  by Merthyr_boy

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25th Sep 2013  12:28  by Phil Clayton

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Above date is most recent visit of four, first on 07/10/1979. No pillar, just a stone and concrete block, topped with a brass bolt.

27th May 2013  11:10  by Dusty

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Even more erosion has occurred since previous photographs. The pillars base has toppled over exposing even more of the concrete core which was used to fill the hole dug to reach rock during construction. Bolt in good condition.

Pillar base remains
PKBathrooms & pillar
Bolt

27th May 2013  11:06  by pkbathrooms

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Visited with Dusty.

3rd May 2013  19:43  by stumoo

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17th Jun 2012  12:04  by sickpit

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the bog

21st Jul 2011  12:00  by Andy West

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25th Nov 2010  15:00  by tim747

FB Number: NONE  Condition: Converted  Score: 3/10

4th Sep 2010  13:30  by desperate dan

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Cycled on forest tracks to 720m so an easy ascent on foot. Too hazy for decent views. Contender for the dullest summit ever.

22nd Aug 2010  10:00  by VBForever

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22nd May 2010  07:20  by Trigger

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TP3548

24th Apr 2010  10:50  by Do you Always Get Lost

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24th Jan 2010  13:27  by russie and sidekick

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not the best day for views although i have been here before on a clear day not the most inspiring summit just foundation remains of the trig

14th Dec 2009  14:00  by Djinnsplace

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Got here on a circular walk from the Castle Inn up the ridge line of Y Grib to BBC4 then over a VERY wet “Big Bog”. The wet ground/mud made for slow going, not an enjoyable part of the walk. Started to snow as I enjoyed the views from GZ so did not stay long.

2nd Aug 2009  12:30  by gromitfromhay

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No pillar just a blob of concrete with copper nail, makes a change from the usual pillar.

17th Jul 2009  14:17  by martinc

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I remember this one when the peat was almost level with the top of the concrete base. Cloud so no view today.

24th May 2009  11:50  by Loz&Bib

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At least we had good views the weather is wonderful today and we can see for miles.

23rd May 2009  16:14  by John+Tracey

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Very muddy walk to Waun Fach but fun! Trig missing just a boulder left where it once stood!

Waun Fach Tracey on the Summit©John+Tracey
waun fach John on the Summit©John+Tracey

22nd Mar 2009  13:30  by asbown

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not much to say that's not been said,at least it was dry underfoot, All the way to this 1 i had seen a steady stream of others walkers and after this not another soul.

22nd Mar 2009  12:40  by theblack

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18th Sep 2008  17:00  by Glaslyn

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Still gets a five for location .Last of three for the day ,now a long walk back to car with an already tired Spaniel.

13th Jul 2008  17:01  by welshmike

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Sorry looking site, just a lump of concrete in a muddy ditch. Views of the surrounding area are good which made up for it.

Waun Fach ©welshmike

8th Jun 2008  12:30  by dugswell2

FB Number: GONE  Condition: Destroyed  Score: 4/10

Lucky that the ground around the concrete remains was very dry today.

14th May 2008  11:30  by Aye Jimmy

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Just a tilted concrete block, sinking into the mud - completely dry on this occasion. Central bronze stud is pillar replacement?

Gwynydd Bach (Waun Fach) TP - all that is left.
Gwynydd Bach (Waun Fach) Concrete block has a stud.
Gwynydd Bach (Waun Fach) Close-up of stud.

5th Apr 2008  13:00  by weekender

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RW, PaulM, Colin, Brett, Danny (MTB)

16th Dec 2007  13:50  by Dobunnis

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We walked over from Lord Hereford's Knob via the trigpoint at Rhos Dirion on a cold, frosty, windy morning/afternoon. At least the ground was very dry as it was frozen! It was very misty (or were we in the cloud?) but every now and then we got a good view of the sunshine over the valley as we walked. We did not realise the rock was a trig base until we got back. Amazing to think how much erosion there has been up here.

Carolyn by the trig base... just packing up her amateur radio

16th Dec 2007  12:07  by jonglew

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A bitterly cold walk up from Pengenffordd, thick hoar frost on the ground and a strong wind blowing. Visibility not too bad but no views across the valleys to east or west.

Wuan Fach Summit TP3548 - No2 Son getting chilly©jonglew

29th Oct 2007  00:00  by caroleengel

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29th Oct 2007  00:00  by caroleengel

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21st Oct 2007  11:55  by SidAndBob

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Passed by on a circular walk of Grwyne Fawr Reservoir, taking in Bal Mawr, Rhos Dirion, Gwynydd Bach and Crug Mawr trigpoints. Some of the best views I have seen on the way to this trig. My favourite has to be from Mynydd Bychan. Waun Fach itself is a flat peak, but still a great place on a day as (relatively) warm and clear as today. Stones have recently been piled onto the base.

Bob on Waun Fach ©SidAndBob
Very different on 2/7/2017 The bog has currently gone. A path takes you through what was a bog. The pillar base has gone.©SidAndBob

24th Jul 2007  14:42  by mad max

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12th Jul 2007  14:36  by stignest

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Not sure id ever seen such a poorly trig. was hard to get to without disappearing up to the neck in peat. trig no longer the high spot.. anywhere around the crater rim higher.

16th Dec 2006  12:00  by peregrinus

FB Number: NO FB  Condition: Damaged  Score: 6/10

Just the concrete base and Rivet remains, in a sea of boggy peat, undermined by erosion, and leaning. FB formerly 2986. Converted to block 8/70 [OS]. Visited during a recce of the Black Mountains half of the South Wales Traverse.

27th Aug 2006  11:30  by DanTrig

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Walked up on a few occasions and saw the big concrete block, we always thought it was the trig upside down with the pillar well under the bog. Quite a dull summit but good views, I always thought Pen Y Gadair-Fawr was a better summit. Got lost in Mynydd Du forest afterwards.

13th Feb 2006  10:28  by rhayader_wanderer

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A mere formality but there is no sign of damage to the trig foundations though it now looks more like a peak district weathered stone

7th Nov 2004  14:00  by Father Ted

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The poor weather made this a miserable peak. Add reckless mountain bikers to the list of peat summit damagers. I am always worried by the number of people I bump into in poor conditions on the mountain top who ask me which way to go. Where is their map and compass let alone protective gear.

The remaining bolt on Gwynydd Bach
Remaining block on Gwynydd Back

17th Dec 2003  10:51  by Funk to Funky

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25th Oct 2003  13:15  by NeverLost

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Trig gone but concrete base still there and now sitting above ground in a large crater caused by erosion.

Concrete base All that remains.

2nd Oct 2003  11:55  by sleepwalker

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Eventually arrived here in very misty and damp conditions during a round of the local hills. Just the base of the former pillar remains.

2nd Apr 2002  14:00  by Boneychest

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This one isn't even marked on OS maps! I don't remember it being here in 1976 when I first walked this route. I remember the hill being completely fogbound though, just like today :-(

10th Dec 2001  13:01  by rhayader_wanderer

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Latest of numerous visits to the highest but least impressive summit in the Black mountains

23rd Sep 1999  14:18  by fasgadh

FB Number: 2986  Condition: Destroyed  Score: 6/10

Waun Fach is the highest point in The Black Mountains, and one of the small number of non Scottish Corbetts. It is perhaps the flattest soggiest summit going a, situation not helped by the pony trekkers and many walkers who make the somewhat pointless pilgrimage to this 'summit' There has not been a pillar here for many years. I have been up many times, and at first in 1982 the concrete foundations were flush with the peat surface. Now the foundations are a 'boulder' lying in a peaty depression.

All that is left of the Waun Fach trig. In the middle of this morass,is a concrete 'boulder' this is the foundation of the pillar, missing in 1982.

5th May 1998  14:15  by senrabyar

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5th Apr 1997  12:30  by lonesome_cowboy_burt

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Remains  Score: 5/10

Clockwise circuit from Bont: Pen Cerig Calch - Pen Allt-Mawr - Waun Fach. Low cloud and a boggy flat summit

29th May 1996  12:48  by Crazy

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What's wrong with Waun Fach. The morass around the summit block is an effective deterrent to close inspection.

14th Oct 1995  12:23  by vegibagger

FB Number: 2986  Condition: Converted  Score: 5/10

3rd Sep 1995  00:00  by gowrie

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Not Logged  Score: 5/10

2nd Oct 1994  00:00  by mickandshane

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No trig but a large lump of concrete in the middle of a bog where it was.Dismantled (converted to a block 1970)

19th Jun 1994  12:00  by Hartryggers

Gridref: SO 21543 29980   FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Destroyed  Score: 5/10

10th Mar 1984  13:00  by arranc

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column base still there, column removed