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TP4016 - Hopwas
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This trigpoint:
Is ranked joint 15498th with 58 other trigs (more).
Has a mean score of 4.66/10 (from 32 logged visits)
Was First logged: 5th Apr 2002
Was Last found intact: 24th Dec 2016
Was Last logged: 18th Jul 2018

Of the 32 logged visits,
12 recorded a location and of these....

All were within 152m
The average error was 53m
1 was exact

Hints Hill Hints Hill rams rams tomytucker tomytucker slateloose slateloose Mickandkim Mickandkim Whats the Point Whats the Point Garth Fenton Garth Fenton trig-man trig-man caroleengel caroleengel Father Ted Father Ted RichardM RichardM arranc arranc CURRYSCRIM CURRYSCRIM Hopwas Hopwas [Zoom In/Out] [Hide Labels]

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Pillar behind the fence
By Alancache


By rams
Cables pulling the TP upright ?
By sven

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Logged Visits:

Couldn't find it 18th Jul 2018  10:30  by gower lad

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Couldn't find it  Score: 0/10

approached location on OS map from communication mast. the relief of the area did not look like that of the map, it looked like restored ground after gravel abstraction, OS location looked to be about 300m from mast but that was now in a dip. very hot, in shorts, legs shredded searching a pair of original outcrops that were thick with brambles etc before admitting defeat. now, reading website understand why we never found it but had entertaining morning, will return!

Inaccessible 7th Jun 2018  15:01  by thejackrustles

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Inaccessible  Score: 1/10

Walked as far as quarry entrance to be met by quarry manager just leaving in a car, told me it was all private land and no way to get to mast, he wasn’t aware of the pillar and unfortunately didn’t offer to escort me to it! One for a day the quarry is closed!

Moved 16th Apr 2017  16:20  by Alancache

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Moved  Score: 4/10

I decided Easter Sunday was an ideal opportunity to get this one. Parked in layby opposite road into quarry and walked up. I'm glad somebody had mentioned that there is a wooden gate next to the large green gates.

Pillar behind the fence

Moved 16th Apr 2017  10:30  by stignest

FB Number: S2316  Condition: Moved  Score: 3/10

hard to mark this one,its moved as stated..and now sits atop a higher brambly spot than where it originally was. theres not much a view because of trees bushes and the ruddy great mast and the pillar isnt exactly standing proud. Nice though that it is atleast still there. Not a soul about today - Easter Sunday.

Moved 24th Dec 2016  15:33  by RichardM

Gridref: SK 16317 04253   FB Number: S2316  Condition: Moved  Score: 5/10

Visit with DeniseMc to wish trig a Happy Christmas.

Good condition 24th Dec 2016  15:20  by DeniseMc

FB Number: S2316  Condition: Good  Score: 5/10

Relocated N of original position due to quarry workings. Now located on south outer boundary of transmission tower buildings in bramble. We accessed from Bridleway to N and followed quarry tracks and field paths to reach it and also current HP a few 100m South. quarry active but closed at time of visit- locked gate with CCTV at main entrance.

Couldn't find it 9th Oct 2016  17:30  by Aye Jimmy

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Couldn't find it  Score: 2/10

Not found. Visiting nearby hill, only info I had was that it was now near the mast and offices. Being Sunday walked all round offices, mast area, couldn't see it. Checking afterwards new GR, seems I must have passed within about 20m of it. Buried in undergrowth maybe?

Moved 8th Jul 2016  20:43  by slateloose

Gridref: SK 16300 04200   FB Number: S2316  Condition: Moved  Score: 6/10

Went in the evening and parked well up the road towards the main entrance gate to quarry site. Used the wooden gate and walked up the concrete track towards the mast. Took a bit of finding but managed in the end.

Good condition 2nd Dec 2015  00:00  by ngthack

FB Number: S2316  Condition: Good  Score: 5/10

Visited whilst bagging the nearby Tump of The Devil's Dressing Room.

Moved 15th Nov 2015  14:45  by Pritch227

FB Number: S2316  Condition: Moved  Score: 6/10

probably best to visit on a Sunday,quarry completely deserted,I skirted around the quarry and cut across to the mast,pillar relatively easy to spot this time of year,access was a little tricky over a wooden gate and over a couple of wire fences,met a couple up there walking their dog,they wanted to see where the pillar was so I pointed it to them,they also said it was easier going back down the quarry road to the green gates,there's a handy wooden kissing gate for passing through,I wish I had taken this simple route in the first place!!!


Slightly damaged 25th Nov 2014  13:52  by Garth Fenton

Gridref: SK 16313 04252   FB Number: S2316  Condition: Slightly damaged  Score: 5/10

After much wandering about from the A51 I found the access road to the 'Mast' once in the compound the pillar is about 50yards to the right, there is no need to climb over the fence, just follow the fence a few yards to it's end and make one's way back [serious brambles] Still foggy.

Good condition 14th Sep 2013  14:20  by tomytucker

Gridref: SK 16300 04100   FB Number: S2316  Condition: Good  Score: 5/10

parked on a layby a could see the big radeo mast where the trig was but getting to it was very difficultto get to right on the side of a quarry trig base as been under mined

Good condition 14th Sep 2013  14:20  by rams

Gridref: SK 16300 04100   FB Number: 2316  Condition: Good  Score: 5/10


Moved 14th Apr 2013  00:00  by caroleengel

Gridref: SK 16315 04252   FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Moved  Score: 5/10

DEFINITELY MOVED - and quite some way from its mapped position. Visit on a Sunday - quarry deserted and can drive all the way to the transmitter. Access trig via gate into transmitter compound (SK 16288 04280, turn right and there she is - just the other side of the enclosure compound you are now standing in.

Toppled 24th Dec 2011  11:55  by dal

FB Number: S2316  Condition: Toppled  Score: 5/10

Walked up from the main road - no-one about at the quarry. You can get to the trig without climbing over barbed wire fences.

Toppled 9th Nov 2011  13:46  by trig-man

Gridref: SK 16313 04252   FB Number: S2316  Condition: Toppled  Score: 5/10

Toppled 26th Mar 2011  11:21  by sven

FB Number: S2316  Condition: Toppled  Score: 6/10

Didn't have to courage to drive right up to the mast building. Walked up from the small building at the start of the bridleway. Went through field short of compound and over the quarry boundary fence. Along edge to Trig. Interesting to see the ground anchors of the mast cables. With more class than ass I reckon you could drive up on a week day.

Cables pulling the TP upright ?

Toppled 13th Mar 2011  14:45  by Mickandkim

Gridref: SK 16355 04143   FB Number: S2316  Condition: Toppled  Score: 5/10

Sunday Drove all way to mast entrance Trig on right after short walk through fenced area

Toppled 2nd Jan 2011  11:21  by Whats the Point

Gridref: SK 16314 04249   FB Number: S2316  Condition: Toppled  Score: 4/10

Followed in the steps of others. Parked on the A51 and walked up the bridal path – turned through the old quarry on the left just after the dip – headed towards the left of the tower after some serious barbed wire followed the hedge with the tower on my right – then over more barbed wire into the quarry – approached the trigpoint with the tower and the fence on my right. Although not in its original position and relocated it seems secure close to the transmission tower boundary. Nobody about on Sunday morning after the New Year. Returned down the tower access road and along Knox’s Grave Lane. The route up the tower access road would be a much easier way to get to the trigpoint but there may be problems getting up the private quarry road when they are working.

Hopwas Trigpoint on the edge of the quarry

Moved 29th Aug 2009  10:55  by ted

FB Number: S2316  Condition: Moved  Score: 7/10

Walked through quarry via mast access road - noone about. Plug replaced; pillar leaning slightly. Just over fence outside compound. The mast is apparently 1001' high - equivalent to 250 trig pillars stacked one on top of another 8-)

Hopwas trig
Hopwas trig
Hopwas FB
Hopwas top

Toppled 12th Jul 2009  15:10  by ocean soul

FB Number: S2316  Condition: Toppled  Score: 5/10

Parked on A51 near Packington Lane.Followed bridleway to where sign says `no left turn`Headed for mast and eventually found a clear route.Pillar on edge of quarry.Not too clear at this time of year.

Toppled 25th Mar 2009  17:16  by arranc

Gridref: SK 16300 04300   FB Number: S2316  Condition: Toppled  Score: 5/10

Toppled 16th Aug 2008  11:28  by THE CYCLIST

FB Number: S2316  Condition: Toppled  Score: 5/10

accessed by cycling all the way up the road to the TV mast compound (past quarry buildings). Noone about on a Sunday to make a challenge. A bit of wire fence climbing to reach the pillar.

Toppled 7th Jun 2008  14:20  by CURRYSCRIM

Gridref: SK 16400 04200   FB Number: S2316  Condition: Toppled  Score: 5/10

Took the approach by Mick and Shane but drove up the bridle path to a locked gate. I think the quarry workings may have changed a bit since their visit.I took the SW path then climbed over a gate and walked through the quarry, it was a Saturday afternoon, and headed for the mast. After a few wrong approaches I got to the buildings and climbed a plastic coated fence which had convenient concrete posts for getting over. Across a field, over a sheep fence and to the Trig Point. It was visible on the approach to the buildings. There were two workmen on site but if they did see me, I was not challenged.

Toppled 23rd May 2008  10:15  by asbown

FB Number: S2316  Condition: Toppled  Score: 5/10

drove up and parked in the car park but was seen wandering around by some workmen working on the mast who insisted on me wearing a safety hat while i was in the area,trig just away from quarry edge and looks safe, managed to get over the fence to confirm this was S2316 and not S2315 (hints hill). seems to be a disagreement below on which direction it as moved, for what it's worth i would say it is slighty north/east of it's original location.

Toppled 30th Sep 2006  12:00  by peregrinus

FB Number: S2316  Condition: Toppled  Score: 6/10

resin plug, uprooted & slightly leaning else vgc. 50m S of W end of mast buildings, near edge of quarry. 05/04/02 was on landscaping berm, a bit further E, IIRC. Not on 1993.OSdb; gone from 50k; on my 1972 1st series

S2316 fb ©peregrinus
S2316 top ©peregrinus
S2316 trig ©peregrinus
S2316 trig ©peregrinus

Toppled 31st Jul 2005  13:15  by mickandshane

FB Number: S2316  Condition: Toppled  Score: 5/10

Well found Father Ted. We didn't fancy approaching through the road works so parked at the entrance to Packington Lane on the A51 and took the bridle path west from there (you can't park at the entrance to the bridle path as there are signs up saying that you could be clamped). We walked to the end of the quarry and where the bridle path heads west took the footpath which heads south west. We kept to the hedgeline and then followed a hedgeline south east which divides the two quarries by the look of it, (both quarries seemed to be totally deserted at the time of our visit - Sunday afternoon). This brought us to the tarmac road which gives access to the mast. The trig is about 50 metres to the south east of the building, so I would say it has wandered north and very slightly east. It seems fairly safe from future quarrying activities at the moment. Tarmac plug.

Not Logged 29th Apr 2005  18:59  by rhayader_wanderer

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Not Logged  Score: 3/10

planned to walk from the village then the layby but the road work was in full swing tunnel being build for the bridleway so a future trip is on the cards. Forget any thoughts of using the village as a start point though FP just diverts you back to the bridleway now

Toppled 11th Dec 2004  14:30  by Father Ted

Gridref: SK 16310 04259   FB Number: S2316  Condition: Toppled  Score: 5/10

The last thing I was expecting to find at the end of my walk was a trig point. I parked in a lay-by on the A5 and walked up the lane past new A5 road works and the quarry up to NTL mast. I was planning to take a photo of where the trig used to be but as I reached the NTL offices at the foot of the mast there was the trig point. It has obviously been dug up and moved by the quarry company. It looks in good condition apart from a tarmac plug. My lads practised their Pythagrous theorem and tell me it has moved 124 meters in total mainly north slightly west. Those with enough cheek could probably drive all the way up the drive to the mast.

Hopwas Flush Bracket
Hopwas Trig Point in new position

Destroyed 14th Feb 2004  00:20  by Deego

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Destroyed  Score: 5/10

Did not get close to this but could see no sign and its not mapped.

Destroyed 6th Aug 2002  19:33  by fasgadh

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Destroyed  Score: 5/10

The hill is being quarried away, the pillar has long gone and has been missing from the maps for many years. Had a look round for the highest surviving point - Clem bagging. In those days, I was unaware of the phenomonon of trigs wot walk.

Moved 5th Apr 2002  12:00  by peregrinus

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Moved  Score: 6/10

not on 1993.OSdb; gone from OSLR; still present 2002 - Pleasant view, highest pt is earth bund adj to & 1-3m > TP

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