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TP4308 - Knox Hill
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OSGB36 trig archive spreadsheet - IW
Knox HillNO42/T20NO42T020358499.20739761.55102.6263PILLAR01/06/1948101/06/1970N0

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This trigpoint:
Is ranked joint 19530th with 68 other trigs (more).
Has a mean score of 3.82/10 (from 17 logged visits)
Was First logged: 27th Aug 1994
Was Last logged: 30th Nov 2019

Of the 17 logged visits,
9 recorded a location and of these....

All were within 38m
The average error was 9m
The closest was 3m

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Good condition 30th Nov 2019  15:10  by descarte1

Gridref: NO 58502 39763   FB Number: S4597  Condition: Good  Score: 6/10

Spotted on the map whilst bagging the nearby FBM. Thought I'd just pop up and bag it. Wish I'd read the logs first.... Ended up going over the farm gate near Craigend, up to the electric fence (it was on full tilt), then followed that west. Climb that barbed wire fence then follow the wall about 20 feet north where the electric fence stops. Vault that barbed wire fence into the correct field. Head to the north-east side of the big gorse clump on the high point. There's a bashed track up which gets you to about 10m away, then freestyle it through the gorse to the trig. Watch out for the edge of the knoll the trig sits on! Would have had great views before the gorse incursion! FB faces north-west-ish with the same side sighthole open only. Cap with sunken lettering.

Good condition 5th Jul 2019  13:48  by jonglew

Gridref: NO 58500 39765   FB Number: S4597  Condition: Good  Score: 5/10

Bit of a challenge. Walked across from the Arbirlot FBM across rough cattle pasture, ideal for rough cattle, well boisterous. Once in the gorse they backed off, sensible creatures! Only man, man on a mission would venture in there. Needless to say there is a way through to the pillar from the S side, but it was a prickly business. The pillar retains original centre cap, indented lettering; front sight hole open. Some limited views ENE.

Pillar TP4308©jonglew
Spider TP4308©jonglew
Flush Bracket TP4308©jonglew

Good condition 31st Mar 2019  08:55  by scotti

Gridref: NO 58495 39763   FB Number: S4597  Condition: Good  Score: 6/10

Found eventually after clambering over fences and gorse. Can be seen from the pastureland to the east.

View from the east The pillar can be seen in the centre of the photograph.

Good condition 4th Aug 2018  14:08  by Aqueously90

Gridref: NO 58504 39767   FB Number: S4597  Condition: Good  Score: 3/10

Log #523. Big thanks to Wubbleyew for cleaning a good chunk of the gorse, it's grown back a bit since though. From east, after finding the FBM. [ExP-359/MiP-38/Rev-6/BM-41/IS-52/Other-27]

Cap with indented lettering intact.
Peeking through gorse

Good condition 13th Jun 2018  13:22  by dugswell2

FB Number: S4597   Condition: Good  Score: 4/10

Walk in via fields from FBM.

Good condition 10th Jun 2018  16:15  by Wubbleyew

FB Number: S4597  Condition: Good  Score: 4/10

Into the jungle that is Knox Hill. Entered from a south-westerly direction, and determinedly snipped away with my trusty secateurs, (although in truth a machete would have been more appropriate), making gradual progress. I veered to the right: no luck. Veered to the left: again no luck. Yet I seemed to be at the highest point, but couldn't see it. Moved several inches to my right: Voila! Spent some time at the pillar (cap in place with shallow lettering, and one s/h open) clearing vegetation. The pillar is now visible from the grass bank to the east walking around the hillock, but you need to look very carefully. I imagine that now we've had rain at last, a growth spurt may soon cover it up again. You've probably got two or three weeks. Quite an adventure, but at least this pillar lives within a secure environment and must be safe for generations!

Good condition 29th Mar 2017  12:27  by Sandgrownun

Gridref: NO 58500 39759   FB Number: S4597  Condition: Good  Score: 5/10

Parked at house just up from road bridge, then same route as Clochandighter. Getting to the general area was the easy bit, pillar still took some finding, as it's completely enveloped in gorse. Pillar in good nick sat on large plinth, OS cap in place, one sight hole open.

Knox Hill Pillar
Knox Hill Flush bracket
Knox Hill Top
Knox Hill In there!

Good condition 26th Feb 2017  15:35  by thejackrustles

FB Number: S4597  Condition: Good  Score: 0/10

Spotted the hat trick whilst passing the day before, Berntsen, FBM, Trig (100m from road), how hard could they be....... Bernsten buried, took 1/2 hour to find, FBM in comparison easy, parked at school, just down the track on the left up a slippy bank. The trig, 100m.....easy....? Parked in field entrance opposite gate, climbed gate and headed for the fence which luckily had no barbed wire. So I grabbed it with both hands and started to climb over.....argh, electric and on, full on......ouchies. Back in field, couldn't see any way over or under the fence so back to car. Followed road round and down the hill and parked next to a house. Trig still only 300m away....should I try from this side? Well she who dares.... 1/2 later and after climbing two barbed wire fences and spending 20 minutes battling through gorse and bracken, torn to pieces I finally found the trigpoint. Out much easier, only about 20 meters of gorse. So top tip, walk around the gorse until you are about 20m away then head in. Bring secateurs!

Knox Hill selfie ©thejackrustles
Knox Hill - it is there honest! ©thejackrustles
Knox Hill collage

Good condition 26th Jun 2014  16:15  by Lathama

FB Number: S4597  Condition: Good  Score: 3/10

One of the most difficult trigs to date, both to access and to find. The gorse hasn't gone away in the last three years! Followed roughly the way suggested by the last visitor and eventually found it. No views at all due to gorse. Original plug with slightly-indented letters. E sighthole open, others closed. Concrete base exposed several inches all round. It was a pleasure to get back to the car!!

Good condition 25th May 2013  11:48  by Clochandighter

Gridref: NO 58499 39752   FB Number: S4597  Condition: Good  Score: 6/10

Second visit. For GPS reading and photographs. SITE VISIT: Approached from west. Parked in old quarry, NE side of road at NO583396. Into fields beside road bridge to north heading NE along boundary line until a clear line through steep gorse bank becomes visible, then search. Grazing land. In dense gorse, took a bit of finding, used GPS. Gorse needed cleared for photography. Pillar in good condition. Spider retains original OS centre cap with shallow engraved letters. Flush bracket faces NE, ~47. Vented through sight hole on FB face. No view due to surrounding gorse.

S4597 - Knox Hill & self

Good condition 24th Oct 2011  10:46  by coinea

Gridref: NO 58497 39753   FB Number: S4597  Condition: Good  Score: 4/10

Probably the most difficult pillar I have ever had to find. Was 1 metre behind it and could not see it. Thick gorse intertwined with brambles and nettles. Came from east.

S4597 Knox Hill.

Good condition 15th Apr 2006  12:00  by peregrinus

FB Number: S4597  Condition: Good  Score: 4/10

vgc, shallow, in NE edge of dense gorse on 2nd knoll reached if approaching from SW. OK view NE

Good condition 25th Apr 2005  12:00  by iainmac

Gridref: NO 58501 39756   FB Number: S4597  Condition: Good  Score: 2/10

Secateured an easy path to it thru the gorse from the East.


Good condition 23rd Jun 2004  20:19  by rockwellcm

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Good  Score: 5/10

This Trig is surrounded,by gorse bushes,tried to get to it beaten back by the gorse easy to see the top on aproach from east

Couldn't find it 14th May 2004  12:00  by iainmac

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Couldn't find it  Score: 0/10

Only had a big scale printout of map so it looked like it was in a jungle of gorse on highest spot. Eventually decided to go for it but gorse higher than a trig and couldnt find it. To add injury I then got electrocuted on fence. Will return with 10 digit grid ref.

Good condition 3rd Jun 1998  13:00  by Clochandighter

FB Number: S4597  Condition: Good  Score: 5/10

Visited to record FB number. HISTORY: Pillar completed 5th May 1946 costing 5.3s.6d. Computed as tertiary triangulation station NO42/T20 in 1948. Levelled for height in 1970. Last maintained by the OS in October 1981. Grazing (cattle) field.

Good condition 27th Aug 1994  00:00  by widget

Gridref: NO 58500 39800   FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Good  Score: 3/10

Ran from Arbirlot. All round views incl sea. Gorse covered and tricky to get to. Loads of rabbits, & a bull in next field!

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