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TP4404 - Lethen Bar
 
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Grid reference :
Type :
Condition :
Good Good condition
Flush Bracket :
S7417
OSGB36 Station :
NJ06/24
Current use :
none
Historic use :
T:UK waypoint :
TP4404
County :
Highland Region
Nearest town :
NAIRN

OSGB36 trig archive spreadsheet - IW
Trig NameOriginal NameNew NameEASTINGNORTHINGHEIGHTORDERTYPE OF MARKComputing DateCLASS OF LEVELLINGDate of LevellingLEVELLING DATUMDESTROYED MARK INDICATORCOMMENTS
Lethen BarNJ06/24NJ06S024295588.89849463.51258.3722PILLAR01/06/1956101/08/1957N0

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There are 19 photos for this trigpoint (view album).

This trigpoint:
Is ranked joint 17910th with 42 other trigs (more).
Has a mean score of 4.00/10 (from 23 logged visits)
Was First logged: 29th Sep 2004
Was Last logged: 20th Apr 2017

Of the 23 logged visits,
6 recorded a location and of these....

All were within 12m
The average error was 7m
1 was exact

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Clochandighter Clochandighter wrose wrose nozzer nozzer Aqueously90 Aqueously90 BigJ BigJ RichardM RichardM Lethen Bar Lethen Bar [Zoom In/Out] [Hide Labels]

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Selection of photos for this Pillar.

The view, such as it is.
By Aqueously90
S7417
By Aqueously90
Spider and missing cap.
By Aqueously90
Trig collage
By thejackrustles
S7417 Lethens Bar
By wrose
Blood, sweat & sawdust!
By Allymac
See 13 more in the album.

Logged Visits:

Good condition 20th Apr 2017  00:00  by billygunn

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Good  Score: 6/10

Found whilst Geocaching.


Good condition 7th Mar 2017  17:56  by tummelv

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Good  Score: 5/10

Thought this one might be a total PITA but ended up not being too bad. Just one short 10-15 feet section of gorse you had to physically push through and you're at the pillar. Pillar in good condition but someone has nicked the plug.


Good condition 12th Apr 2015  16:03  by RichardM

Gridref: NH 95596 49469   FB Number: S7417  Condition: Good  Score: 5/10

Seemed to me wider and squatter than normal. Surrounded by grass in an area of tall flowering gorse and a few Birch trees. Good views if standing on its top. Blue skies, sunshine and cumulus. Approached from the minor road to its east, initially over tussocks and then fairly easily through forest of young trees.


Good condition 28th Sep 2014  14:43  by BigJ

Gridref: NH 95591 49463   FB Number: S7417  Condition: Good  Score: 4/10

Wet soggy slog through boggy heather and close growing trees. Suggest wellies. Trig well guarded by whins.


Good condition 30th Jul 2014  18:30  by Aqueously90

Gridref: NH 95589 49464   FB Number: S7417  Condition: Good  Score: 5/10

Log #3. Thought I'd take a slight detour on the way home from work to log this one. I parked just to the south, after spending 10-odd minutes finding the entrance to the 'track'. It's more just a gap in the trees. It was fairly dry, although I can see it getting very boggy in rainier weather. If you follow the track, you'll see a gap in the fence. Go through that, and continue around to the north. After a wee sprachle through the whins, I managed to find the pillar without too much trouble. It's in good condition, though I had to do some weeding in order to see the FB. The cap is missing, and it looks to be empty. No view, and was swarmed with midges. I managed to find TJR's cutting on the way back down the hill, which was *very* welcome! Many thanks for that. Probably a 45 minute round trip, and made the drive home along the B9007 that much better. [ExP-3/MiP-0/BM-0]

S7417
The view, such as it is.
Spider and missing cap.


Good condition 17th Jun 2014  12:35  by nozzer

Gridref: NH 95580 49470   FB Number: S7417  Condition: Good  Score: 5/10

Thank you to all the Gardeners it may it easy to find


Good condition 4th May 2014  12:28  by thejackrustles

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Good  Score: 7/10

Parked and found man path up to this, last 100m hard going through gorse of which we cleared a fair amount and the trig is now visible with a path from a northish direction, no view at trig due to tree cover.

Trig collage


Good condition 24th Mar 2014  13:38  by gerryu2

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Good  Score: 7/10

Parked at road and followed the start of a path which was more like an animal track. then encountered very high gorse and then found the pillar in amongst it. no views


Good condition 3rd Oct 2012  13:47  by wrose

Gridref: NH 95592 49452   FB Number: S7417  Condition: Good  Score: 6/10

Parked to the east at what the map would suggest is a track/road junction. As others have found a track as such is only in the imagination of the map maker. For this round trip of about a mile it took well over an hour to achieve. If the underfoot approach was not bad enough the slight hillock on which the pillar stands is protected by what at first seems impenetrable gorse (whins?). After a considerable amount of bad language I final found the lump of concrete that this painful experience was all about. The next visitor very nearly would find my bones as I had no idea of the return route to get away.

S7414 Lethens Bar Pillar.
S7417 Lethens Bar Flush Bracket.
S7414 Lethens Bar Plug.


Good condition 24th Sep 2011  14:45  by Jody Mitchell

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Good  Score: 5/10

We found it this time, after failing a few years ago. The whin has grown back after previous assaults referred to on this website. Access is therefore a little tricky. An average score is given, as the view is unfortunately far from panoramic.

Lethen Bar - 24 September 2011
Trevor Mitchell atop Lethen Bar 24 September 2011


Good condition 29th Sep 2008  17:00  by Chalky

FB Number: S7417  Condition: Good  Score: 1/10

Whinns seem to have recovered somewhat since Allymac opened a way but I eventually found a way through the whinns to the trig, would have been easier with cutting tools !


Good condition 24th Jul 2006  17:10  by Allymac

FB Number: S7417  Condition: Good  Score: 5/10

Those who have visited (or tried to) will know it's one of the most inaccessible in Scotland. It's surrounded by 20m thick wall of tall gorse and requires thick clothing and an iron will to push through, though finding the trig in such conditions is still almost impossible. NOT ANY MORE! Spidy M and I spent almost 3 hours today sawing and pruning a good path through. It was one hell of a job but future visitors now have an easy 1m-2m wide path through the gorse wall, straight to the trig. Well, I say straight: it's more of an S shape as navigation was difficult and the GPS fluctuated wildly, but it gets you there. SpidyM and I have now named this passage "The SpidyMac Way" :o) It should last a few years as we hacked away at the roots, not the branches so regrowth won't be quick. I hope you enjoy it, and please feel free to trim the path as Clochandighter similarly requested earlier.

Blood, sweat & sawdust!


Good condition 24th Jul 2006  16:50  by spidym

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Good  Score: 5/10

Hell .....as was once known has now become Heaven!.... thanks to the "SpidyMac way" constructed through hours of toil,sweat & even blood. Wasn't an easy job as the Fly squadron sent in its finest insects (1000's) to harass Allymac and myself. However we won the battle. Feels good to finally bag this one. Enjoy the path.

Lord Of The Flies


Couldn't find it 31st May 2006  17:30  by spidym

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Couldn't find it  Score: 0/10

Firstly forgot boots and gaitors and even my stick as was in a rush so had a nightmare, got the cuts and bruises to prove it. Absolute Nightmare spent 3.5 hours looking, hacking & cutting (myself) to no avail. Will be back!!


Good condition 11th Apr 2006  12:00  by peregrinus

FB Number: S7417  Condition: Good  Score: 4/10

vgc, metal cap deep letters. Birchy summit; trig in patch of gorse: some trampling which I added to. Avoid in shorts ;-) Pinewood & some bog en route.


Good condition 7th Apr 2006  16:12  by Africajim

FB Number: S7417  Condition: Good  Score: 6/10

Worst trig to get to ever! The gorse has grown up all around the trig and was really hard to get through. Tramped down quite a bit and made it a bit more accessible!

The trig, the legends! Not often you meet a legend while trigging, I had the honour to meet two! Allymac and Iainmac.


Good condition 7th Apr 2006  15:00  by Allymac

FB Number: S7417  Condition: Good  Score: 3/10

EVIL! EVIL! EVIL! Kudos to Clochandighter for hacking a path through to this one. It would've been a nightmare had it not been for his earlier pathfinding. Done with Africajim and the legend that is Iainmac. PS. We pruned the path as requested courtesey of iainmac's clippers and Africajim and I's brute force!


Good condition 7th Apr 2006  12:00  by iainmac

FB Number: S7417  Condition: Good  Score: 6/10

Done with Africajim and Allymac; glad to finally get to see this one. It gets one visitor in umpty years and then 3 in one day (4 if you count africajims 2 visits today)

S7417 africajim and allymac
S7417
S7417


Couldn't find it 27th Oct 2005  12:00  by iainmac

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Couldn't find it  Score: 0/10

Unseasonal warm weather meant I got hot and bothered with this one. And to make it a truly memorable visit I started back down wrong path and ended up crossing the wet boggy ground.


Good condition 22nd Sep 2005  14:05  by Clochandighter

Gridref: NH 95590 49454   FB Number: S7417  Condition: Good  Score: 6/10

Mission accomplished. Pillar found in dense gorse after 45 minutes of pruning, sawing and sheer brute force. A further 5 minutes before making physical contact with the pillar even though it was less than 3m away from me when spotted. Another 20 minutes of gorse clearance before the pillar could be photographed properly. Due to the dry summer the boggy approach was almost completely dry. Near the summit there are some mature trees on the east side. Head westwards through these trees to the highest point. At this point, my GPS indicated ~20m west so I cut my way through and took another reading. GPS fluctuating, ground to southwest appeared higher, started hacking away but nothing. GPS now settling for ~20m north. Persevered northwards cutting path through gorse, undergrowth getting more dense, stopped to consider if this exercise was worthwhile, continued and eventually spotted the pillar in solid gorse. The density of the gorse around the pillar was such than I reckon I was the first human contact this pillar has had this century. I have had several fights with dense gorse in Nairnshire, but this one was an order of magnitude more challenging than any of the others. The way in is now cleared for others to visit, all I ask is that each visitor prunes a bit more on arrival. The pillar is in very good condition. Spider has OS plug with deep indented lettering. FB faces 63, ENE. Vented through back sighting hole. S7417 built 3rd April 1953. Secondary station in Block NJ06, Nairn. Found & photographed 22/09/2005, GRP.

S7417 - Lethen Bar Emerging stage by stage.
S7417 - Lethen Bar Flush Bracket
S7417 - Lethen Bar Pillar
S7417 - Lethen Bar Equipment required.


Couldn't find it 9th Mar 2005  12:00  by iainmac

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Couldn't find it  Score: 0/10

At least I got to the gorse this time. Best approach is a track/path starting at NH96304925 which takes you straight to the top. Thickness of gorse means you will probably have to bump into it to find it. Signs of grp's attempt and I did some more pruning. Its a saw and loppers next time. I'm convinced its in there somewhere.


Not Logged 18th Oct 2004  12:00  by iainmac

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Not Logged  Score: 0/10

I only got 100 yards from car before giving up - wet and boggy hardly covers it. I'm going back in Winter after several days of hard frost have frozen the ground.


Couldn't find it 29th Sep 2004  15:25  by Clochandighter

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Couldn't find it  Score: 1/10

It could still be there. Desolate wilds of dense gorse but according to GPS I went through it more than once and round it more than once. Horribly boggy approach. If visiting you require (1) plenty time (2) a substantial wood saw. FB No S7417 from OS data. GRP. I shall return!!!



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