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TP0469 - Stokes Bay Two
 
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Type :
Condition :
Possibly missing Possibly missing
Passive Station :
Current use :
Historic use :
none
T:UK waypoint :
TP0469
County :
Hampshire
Nearest town :
GOSPORT


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There are 22 photos for this trigpoint (view album).

This trigpoint:
Is ranked joint 6547th with 48 other trigs (more).
Has a mean score of 5.36/10 (from 22 logged visits)
Was First logged: 27th Apr 2003
Was Last found intact: 1st Sep 2012
Was Last logged: 1st Apr 2017

Of the 22 logged visits,
7 recorded a location and of these....

All were within 110m
The average error was 20m
The closest was 1m

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Selection of photos for this Berntsen.

OS sketch for Stokes Bay Two C2SZ5998
By peregrinus
Where it should be
©jonglew
Site of Stokes Bay 2, now a play area
By martinc

By macroderma

By macroderma
See 17 more in the album.

Logged Visits:

Destroyed 1st Apr 2017  17:12  by peregrinus

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Destroyed  Score: 5/10

Agree lost to play area. busy with kids and parents so no attempt to search. Bolt has exact same coordinates as Berntsen: OS sketch says block 6" below surface: sketches for Stokes Bay and Stokes Bay Two are identical except for the titles; the co-ordinates are the same: Stokes Bay Two berntsen evidently an in situ replacement for bolt.

OS sketch for Stokes Bay Two C2SZ5998


Possibly missing 4th Sep 2016  11:30  by mattandsophie

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Possibly missing  Score: 5/10

Definitely looks like this has been destroyed in the building of the play area (S enjoyed the swings and slide though. Good views over water to Isle of Wight


Possibly missing 5th Aug 2016  13:50  by Griefmiester

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Possibly missing  Score: 3/10

Agreed looks to either of gone or it is under playground, taking photos of kids playground not a good idea. nice coastal area very busy today in the sun.


Possibly missing 12th Sep 2015  10:48  by jonglew

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Possibly missing  Score: 4/10

Site has been redeveloped into a children's play area. The Berntsen, as with the other trig here, is either buried and so inaccessible of more likely has been dug up and destroyed. I plump for the latter.

Where it should be TP0469©jonglew


Destroyed 12th Sep 2013  12:00  by m13751

Gridref: SZ 59500 98400   FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Destroyed  Score: 5/10

agreed as last log,,, which is very disappointing ,as always in area just remembered to view....


Destroyed 12th Jul 2013  09:45  by martinc

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Destroyed  Score: 7/10

This Berntsen has been destroyed when the area was turned into a play area during the spring. Score is for the view over the Solent.

Site of Stokes Bay 2, now a play area


Good condition 1st Sep 2012  11:40  by macroderma

Gridref: SZ 59587 98469   FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Good  Score: 5/10

As described previously




Not Logged 5th Oct 2011  19:46  by captain gore-tex

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Not Logged  Score: 5/10

Have to agree with Pharisee so decided to have a gander below the cover and indeed that is the trig point described by the engineer.

Beneath the cover ©captain gore-tex


Good condition 19th Dec 2010  14:00  by blueteddy

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Good  Score: 6/10

Not sure whether we would be able to find this after all the snow, but because it is so close to the sea there was not much snow around this afternoon. Nice views of the IOW from here today.

©blueteddy
©blueteddy


Good condition 26th Nov 2010  12:25  by bluebeard

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Good  Score: 1/10


Good condition 28th Apr 2010  12:57  by Pharisee

Gridref: SZ 59586 98469   FB Number: N/A  Condition: Good  Score: 5/10

This one fascinated me as most people seem to log the Environmental Agency Bench Mark. I was sure that this was not the Ordnance Survey bolt so I downloaded the photo and engineers hand drawn map from the OS website, took a hi-vis jacket, two 50 metre tape measures, a hand held metal detector and a clipboard along to the location. Standing on the EA-BM and looking at the OS photo, it was obviously in totally the wrong location. The clincher was the note on the engineers drawing that states “Block 6 inches below surface” which the EA-BM very obviously isn’t. I’d noted a previous log from Hi-Tek, when in 2004 he found what appeared to be a ‘Berntsen’ close by so I set out my tape measures according to the OS engineers map (much to the fascination of some passing ‘muggles’). I didn’t find the stainless steel cover shown in Hi-Tek’s photo but in exactly the right location was a circular, cast iron cover secured with a single screw (should be two but one was missing). Selecting the correct tool from my mobile workshop (Leatherman Wave) I removed the screw and lifted the cover. Sure enough, about 6” below the surface was a vertical rod about 3” long. It was domed and had a drilled centre mark in the end. I’m certain that this is the OS station referred to on the OS web site. According to the OS, this site was last checked in March 2001 when the co-ordinates were recorded as N50° 46’ 57.8585” W001° 09’ 22.0978”. Converted to decimal minutes, that’s N50° 46.9643’ W001° 09.3683’ which is almost exactly what my 60CSx is showing in the photo. I suspect that this is what Hi-Tek found six years ago but the cover has been changed in the intervening period. I feel the information given in the ‘Flush Bracket Number’ field above is very misleading and should be removed.

The location ©Pharisee
The data shot ©Pharisee
This is what\'s under the cover. ©Pharisee


Not Logged 9th Feb 2010  18:04  by sarah and steve

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Not Logged  Score: 5/10

never seen one like this before!


Couldn't find it 19th Nov 2009  09:20  by asbown

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Couldn't find it  Score: 6/10

Not sure about this 1, I don't think the EA bench mark is what we are looking, I took the O/S sketch with me(but no tape measure,clever that),the EA benchmark is certainly not in the right place according to the sketch, even without a tape I could tell that, I have left condition as unknown until somebody can tell me otherwise.UPDATE:17/05/2010 Have changed my logged condition to Cnf,suspected at the time the EA benchmark was not correct and now comfired.


Not Logged 24th Apr 2009  18:31  by pompeygarmin

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Not Logged  Score: 7/10


Good condition 7th Apr 2009  11:15  by birders

Gridref: SZ 59591 98469   FB Number: EA-BM  Condition: Good  Score: 8/10

Parking was 20m from the bolt and it was easily found. Brilliant views over the Solent, currently the parking place of the huge US carrier Theodore Roosevelt

Ruth points to the bolt
GPS beside the bolt


Not Logged 18th May 2008  06:13  by patrick

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Not Logged  Score: 5/10

Found the metal stud (environmental agency bench mark) but could not find the Berntsen marker. There was a small hole nearby maybe its been damaged. Can anyone give me any more info.

environmental agency bench mark environmental agency bench mark


Good condition 11th May 2008  20:11  by Mogwai Liz

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Good  Score: 4/10

Stokes Bay Two Stokes Bay Two©Mogwai Liz


Good condition 14th Jan 2007  16:20  by martinc

Gridref: SZ 59591 98476   FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Good  Score: 7/10

Great views over Solent. Bolt appears "rusty"

Stokes Bay Two ©martinc


Good condition 12th Sep 2006  20:30  by Trigger

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Good  Score: 5/10

Revisit 3 Feb 2012 photos taken.

TP0469
TP0469
TP0469


Good condition 27th Jun 2004  21:19  by Kitty Hawk

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Good  Score: 8/10

1st Trig point that I've logged so score is difficult to judge, but I figured it would score well. Hmm, I found a bolt. Will revisit next time I'm kite flying and look for the burntsen.


Good condition 3rd Jan 2004  13:53  by Hi-Tek

Gridref: SZ 59587 98478   FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Good  Score: 5/10

I have to disagree with Sapper on this one unless the bolt has been covered with a Berntsen marker since he located it. I found this today @ N50 46.966 W001 09.368. It was a few yards off the promenade in a park. I had to clean some mud off it to see the detail. GPSr elev = -5ft.

The Berntsen Marker Sorry about the mud!©Hi-Tek


Good condition 27th Apr 2003  08:56  by Sapper

Gridref: SZ 59591 98477   FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Good  Score: 7/10

On the windy Solent seafront - nice views.

Its just a bolt in the gound!



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