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TP6084 - Southerness
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OSGB36 trig archive spreadsheet - IW
SouthernessNY11/27NY11S027297130.91554241.6014.6302PILLAR01/06/1952201/06/1958N1Dest 5/10/89

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There are 19 photos for this trigpoint (view album).

This trigpoint:
Is ranked joint 22679th with 4 other trigs (more).
Has a mean score of 2.85/10 (from 13 logged visits)
Was First logged: 15th Apr 2003
Has never been found intact
Was Last logged: 18th Oct 2014

Of the 13 logged visits,
7 recorded a location and of these....

All were within 69m
The average error was 13m
1 was exact

Southerness Lighthouse Southerness Lighthouse fasgadh fasgadh Border Peat Border Peat agentmancuso agentmancuso bikeboyz bikeboyz Mickandkim Mickandkim CJO CJO g4wsb g4wsb Southerness Southerness [Zoom In/Out] [Hide Labels]

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Selection of photos for this Pillar.

as found
By bikeboyz
location of lump
By bikeboyz
View from the original location.
By bikeboyz
By John Riley
See 14 more in the album.

Logged Visits:

Remains 18th Oct 2014  13:09  by CJO

Gridref: NX 97133 54242   FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Remains  Score: 2/10

now a fire pit at top of dune between sea and golf course. bits of concrete around but could not see large lump from earlier photos. If not aware pillar was on site then you would be hard pushed to identify anything os related


Destroyed 20th Sep 2014  00:00  by caroleengel

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Destroyed  Score: 0/10

Absolutely nothing to be found

Remains 29th May 2014  18:18  by bikeboyz

Gridref: NX 97128 54241   FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Remains  Score: 5/10

seems to be a fire pit now. If you go looking for pieces there is one main lump still around which has been moved about 20 meters down to beach level. I found it on it's side and only recognised the concrete because of where the inner metal tube was set in to the concrete. I left it in a more dignified upright condition but seemed a little heavy to return to it's rightful spot. Be aware the area contains a lot of glass and waste and goodness knows what, have stout boots on. Easy to get to, just walk from the lighthouse along the sand at low tide.

View from the original location.
as found being used as a fire stone
as left close up of remaining lump as left
location of lump as left propped back upright, but not the original location.

Couldn't find it 7th Sep 2012  09:40  by g4wsb

Gridref: NX 97200 54253   FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Couldn't find it  Score: 2/10

Toppled 17th Mar 2012  12:15  by Mickandkim

Gridref: NX 97131 54242   FB Number: S5732  Condition: Toppled  Score: 1/10

Found a bit so classed as moved

Remains 29th Aug 2010  13:26  by Border Peat

Gridref: NX 97131 54236   FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Remains  Score: 7/10

along oswald cresent down steps and along foreshore

pieces of trig©Border Peat
is this the base©Border Peat
dejected largest piece©Border Peat

Remains 14th Jul 2010  15:07  by agentmancuso

Gridref: NX 97131 54238   FB Number: S5732  Condition: Remains  Score: 5/10

Few chunks still lying around as described below. A bit awkward to get to - along Orchard Crescent and down steps to beach is probably best.

Damaged 14th Mar 2010  09:48  by peregrinus

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Damaged  Score: 7/10

...very badly damaged its true but definitely NOT missing. Broken up with a few chunks lying around. Largest (0.5m with bevelled edge) is 50m E of summit of knoll where trig used to be. Another smaller piece 10m E of summit on slope of knoll. 2 smaller pieces atop the knoll, one having white paint (and a shrivelled lizard!). Pleasant easy walk along beach from E, or drive if you have 4x4 (I dont)

Largest piece, 50m E
Largest piece, with ex site in background
Small piece, 10m E
Ex trig, ex lizard On summit where pillar used to stand

Destroyed 11th Oct 2008  13:58  by coinea

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Destroyed  Score: 0/10

Destroyed 11th Oct 2008  13:57  by Clochandighter

FB Number: S5732  Condition: Destroyed  Score: 0/10

HISTORY: Pillar completed 9th December 1949 cost not on record, FB No. S5732. Computed as secondary triangulation station NY11/27 within the Workington block during 1952. Levelled to Class 2 precision in 1958. Last maintained by the OS in 1976. Recorded by OS as destroyed 5/10/1989. SITE VISIT: No immediately apparent reason for this loss. Seemingly the soft ground has been eroded away by excessive numbers of visitors [TAC].

ex-S5732 - Southerness site of.

Destroyed 4th Aug 2005  17:28  by John Riley

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Destroyed  Score: 3/10

Definitely no trig but its a bracing seaside walk along the shingle beach from the lighthouse at Southerness Point to what is an obvious hillock on the dunes. What looks like a good golf course (what would I know?) surrounds the area behind. Couldn't find any sign of trig remains on the top, there is just a hollow. Try a look at for a 360 view taken from this point.

Southerness View from the edge of the golf course.
Southerness View from the shoreline.
Southerness Looking East from one of the greens.
Southerness Hollow on top of hillock.

Destroyed 7th Apr 2004  17:00  by fasgadh

Gridref: NX 97127 54233   FB Number: S5732  Condition: Destroyed  Score: 5/10

Was on a knoll between the shore and a golf course, a very scenic golf corse. There are some suspicious pieces of concrete lying about. Despite its altitude, 14m , its a fine viewpoint. Still shown on my 1993 1:50k map.

View of Criffel from the site
Suspicious remains?

Destroyed 15th Apr 2003  12:00  by iainmac

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Destroyed  Score: 0/10

Point where trig should be is a round hummock with nothing on the top where the trig must have been.

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