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TP7493 - Sails
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OSGB36 trig archive spreadsheet - IW
SailsNY71/T43NY71T043380824.74496570.58666.2923BURIED BLK01/06/1962201/06/1962N0HT TO BOLT IN BLOCK

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There are 26 photos for this trigpoint (view album).

This trigpoint:
Is ranked joint 2207th with 24 other trigs (more).
Has a mean score of 6.39/10 (from 23 logged visits)
Was First logged: 14th Feb 1999
Was Last logged: 21st Jul 2019

Of the 23 logged visits,
7 recorded a location and of these....

All were within 38m
The average error was 9m
The closest was 1m

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Selection of photos for this Concrete Ring.

By greenbell

By greenbell

By greenbell
Hole in the ground
Best I could do by hand
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Logged Visits:

Good condition 21st Jul 2019  12:34  by Ant1974

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Good  Score: 5/10

Good condition 16th Feb 2019  13:54  by greenbell

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Good  Score: 7/10

First concrete ring, surprising how many there are round here. Quite a fierce wind and forgot my hat...never mind. Surely one of the most beautiful places in the country. Start at Garsdale Head, boots blessed with the head waters of the Ure and the Eden. Decided to leave High Seat for another venture - good job as we got back in the dark after wandering round the mighty cairns.

Good condition 6th Oct 2017  13:26  by jonglew

Gridref: SD 80825 96577   FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Good  Score: 6/10

1hr 15 from High Seat. Tell-tale water-filled depression in the ground approx half a metre from the cairn. Should have brought my spade with me. Had to dig this one out by hand, and bail out the water.

Hole in the ground TP7493©jonglew
Best I could do by hand TP7493©jonglew

Good condition 8th Oct 2016  11:02  by stignest

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Good  Score: 5/10

An hour 20 from High Seat. Scarth of Scaiths is certainly the worst bit but the rest was straightforward and clear. This ring somewhat more overgrown. I had nothing with me to clear it either but it looks to be in good nick right by the cairn. Slog to High Way was pretty unpleasant but a good quadbike track met once I arrived at the Washer Gill ravine.

Good condition 27th Aug 2016  10:30  by DanTrig

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Good  Score: 8/10

10 mile walk bagging Lunds Fell and Hugh Seat (the last two Dales mountains we needed) and re-bagging Gregory Chapel and High Seat, walked across some hideous bog probably the source of the Ure and went up to the cairn on Sails so must have seen the concrete ring.

Good condition 15th Aug 2015  00:00  by Rupertal

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Good  Score: 6/10

Good condition 2nd Apr 2015  16:04  by Morecambe Monkey

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Good  Score: 7/10

Nipped over to this after doing the Nuttalls of High Seat/Archy Styrigg/Hugh Seat/Little Fell. Concrete ring next to cairn easily found. Good viewpoint for Yorkshire 3 Peaks.

Good condition 18th Jan 2014  11:20  by BasilDowl

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Good  Score: 5/10

Retrospective log; bagged the summit of Sails, noted the circular depression with submerged concrete ring at the time, but thought little of it. A return needed to bail it out and photograph properly. Miserably awful day bagging the Mallerstang skyline... only a pint in Hawes saved my spirits.

The ring next to the cairn on Sails

Good condition 31st Aug 2013  14:48  by Do you Always Get Lost

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Good  Score: 7/10

Wondered what this was when I bagged the fells of Mallerstang Edge

Good condition 1st Aug 2013  13:57  by Aye Jimmy

Gridref: SD 80827 96573   FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Good  Score: 6/10

Concrete ring full of water, about half a metre from cairn.

Sails Ring trig next to cairn.
Sails Concrete ring full of water but bolt visible.

Good condition 27th Feb 2013  11:25  by PeteBoggs

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Good  Score: 8/10

Up from B6270 so I could revisit High Seat to try to find ring there this time.Fantastic blue sky day today - the ring was buried under an inch of snow covering two inches of ice.Had to use one of the large stones from the cairn to break through


Good condition 14th Aug 2012  13:15  by RogerTempleman

Gridref: SD 80826 96570   FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Good  Score: 8/10

Walked from Garsdale Station via Moorcock Inn, Blades, High Dyke, Keld Gill, Bubble Hill to Sails. Return via High Seat, Lady's Pillar, to Old Track at Fell Side, along track to High Dyke then retracing steps back to the station. As this is my first concrete ring, I thought I would do a bit of excavation for photo and to measure its components. The exposed part of the bolt with its cente hole had a diameter 5.5cm, the internal diameter of the concrete ring is 38.5cm and outside diameter 53cm.

The concrete ring exposed
Closeup of bolt at centre of ring

Good condition 28th Mar 2012  12:30  by painterman61

Gridref: SD 80824 96567   FB Number: NONE  Condition: Good  Score: 9/10

Walked up on a reverse nuttall route up lady anne way to hell gill bridge then up across moor towards little fell, very dry underfoot for this type of walking.The ring is on the highest point and has a little marker cairn and post bone dry no water in ring great 360 views here.Went on to do all the four nuttalls on the ridge.

dry ring ©painterman61
little fell ©painterman61
cairn/ring ©painterman61
techno ©painterman61
Hugh seat cairn ©painterman61

Not Logged 27th Sep 2011  13:30  by Ilkleytrigger

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Not Logged  Score: 5/10

Hard to find the base by the small cairn. Good views from top after ascent from Hell Gill bridge, wet underfoot.

Not Logged 3rd Mar 2011  14:32  by peebs

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Not Logged  Score: 5/10


Good condition 12th Feb 2011  15:00  by sheepsocks

Gridref: SD 80825 96571   FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Good  Score: 6/10

bagged as part of 15km circular walk from Outhgill to High Seat, along the ridge to Sails and then back to Outhgill via Hell Gill Bridge, taking 4h40m. Worst bit was the saddle between Little Fell and Sails...a wet maze of peat hags. Descent off Sails was fine with beautiful view across to the Wild Boar Fell ridge. Ring trig easily found beside its marker cairn and near to a post. NB SD 8080096600 isnt the trigs position... thats just the name of the trig. See logs for actual position

Possibly missing 20th Jun 2010  14:24  by bigtykedog

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Possibly missing  Score: 7/10

Found the ring in the ground next to cairn marker.

Good condition 24th Apr 2010  11:28  by Lone Walker

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Good  Score: 6/10

Walked in along Mallerstang ridge, from High Pike Hill, bagging all the summits along the way. Dry and warm and great views of Wild Boar Fell and descent would normally be pretty awful down to Hell Gill Bridge - but not too bad today - mostly dry. Ring of trig is grass covered and could do with excavating, but had no trowel or tools to do it.

Good condition 8th Aug 2009  14:00  by Father Ted

Gridref: SD 80831 96576   FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Good  Score: 5/10

Thanks Ted for finding and uplading this one. I came across from Little Fell to take a look and then headed down over rough rutted ground to the west to High Gill Bridge.

©Father Ted

Good condition 15th Nov 2008  13:40  by ted

Gridref: SD 80800 96600   FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Good  Score: 7/10

Sails is the southernmost 2000ft top on Mallerstang. Its slightly lower than neighbouring Little Fell with a reascent that most would consider insufficient to qualify it as a separate top. Its a wet, tussocky hill with few rock outcrops which is maybe why the OS chose a 'ring' trig station for this location. Its easy to find - at the highest point, next to a small cairn. There are good views of the surrounding hills, especially the profile of Wild Boar Fell. The station itself is waterlogged - several minutes spent in bailing had little effect. Theres a central bolt of approx 1" diameter but I couldn't make out any lettering on the concrete circumference. The station is recorded on as one of several 'buried blocks' in this area so maybe there are more stations of this kind yet to be found. Acknowledgements to Phil Clayton, whose book 'On High Yorkshire Hills' (Dalesman, 1993) confirmed my suspicion that there could be a ring trig here.

Sails As found - submerged
Sails Bailed out - little better
Sails detail
Sails site
Sails site - looking northwards

Good condition 23rd Sep 2008  14:10  by Phil Clayton

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Good  Score: 7/10

Above date is latest of 4 visits, first on 30.7.78. Thanks to Ted for flagging it up. As I recall the ring was much more visible on my first visit than it is now.

Good condition 4th Apr 1999  16:00  by dugswell2

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Good  Score: 6/10

Bagged after Little Fell.

Good condition 14th Feb 1999  12:30  by sleepwalker

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Good  Score: 6/10

Visited during a traverse of the Mallerstang Ridge in misty and damp conditions.

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