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TP0090 - Lumsdaine
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This trigpoint:
Is ranked joint 4285th with 100 other trigs (more).
Has a mean score of 5.76/10 (from 25 logged visits)
Was First logged: 4th Aug 1993
Was Last logged: 5th Jan 2019

Of the 25 logged visits,
7 recorded a location and of these....

All were within 11m
The average error was 4m
1 was exact

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Good condition 5th Jan 2019  09:15  by agentmancuso

FB Number: S1617  Condition: Good  Score: 5/10

P due E, SW along FB beside telgraph poles then NW up second clearing past pond on its SW edge.

Good condition 10th Oct 2018  15:45  by Borderer

FB Number: S1617  Condition: Good  Score: 7/10

Revisit. As we were at Coldingham Bay for the day enjoying the unusually warm weather thought that I'd attempt this one again after being unable to access the pillar back in 2015. Took the same route as monkeydestructor which was dry all of the way. Pleasant views, last Scottish Borders pillar.


Good condition 6th Sep 2017  00:00  by caroleengel

Gridref: NT 87233 68330   FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Good  Score: 5/10

Approached on track to Cross Law from NE

Good condition 29th Aug 2017  14:00  by dugswell2

FB Number: S1617   Condition: Good  Score: 6/10

Parked on the minor road to the east then entered woodland and followed telegraph poles and grass rides to make a stealth bag of this hill and Lumsdaine trig point.

Good condition 28th Apr 2017  17:06  by thejackrustles

FB Number: S1617  Condition: Good  Score: 5/10

Bagged as YSM071 Lumsdaine. Went up track past house, through gates towards NATS mast for a quick find on the mound.

Lumsdaine and baggers ©thejackrustles
Lumsdaine collage

Good condition 27th Aug 2016  16:30  by monkeydestructor

FB Number: S1617  Condition: Good  Score: 7/10

Had read about the grumpy home owner, so decided to park just down from the track up to the house (to the south east on the road) and follow the tree line up. (Looked like a track on the 1/25K map). Turned right at the second opening in the trees and carried on at right angle. An easy route over the barbed wire fence, kept to the left of the wee loch, up onto to the solid track and on towards the trig. Kept out of sight of the house most of the way. Quickly took photos, but noone bothered us. Back the same way. Total distance 1.5 miles in 45 mins.

Lumsdaine ©monkeydestructor

Good condition 2nd May 2016  11:45  by RichardM

Gridref: NT 87234 68334   FB Number: S1617  Condition: Good  Score: 5/10

Approached by cycle from road using track past house, only person around an engineer working on the mast. On mound, fine views.

Good condition 15th Apr 2016  14:48  by Walker Dan

FB Number: S1617  Condition: Good  Score: 6/10

Walked across the fields to this one to avoid the awkward home owner. One fence to climb but must have made it there and back unseen. A wet and murky day which may have helped hide my approach.

Good condition 19th Sep 2015  13:45  by orlando rat

Gridref: NT 87233 68335   FB Number: S1617  Condition: Good  Score: 8/10

Loved being upclose to the beacon.


Good condition 30th Mar 2015  18:07  by Chalky

FB Number: S1617  Condition: Good  Score: 5/10

Cap with indented lettering, GPS plaque, ATC mast v close by.

Good condition 17th Sep 2014  13:44  by asbown

Gridref: NT 87231 68324   FB Number: S 1617  Condition: Good  Score: 5/10

Good condition 7th Jul 2013  17:15  by Sandman

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Good  Score: 5/10

Access by the field to the south-east of house - no issues

Good condition 2nd Mar 2013  15:02  by CJO

Gridref: NT 87231 68333   FB Number: S1617  Condition: Good  Score: 5/10

Pillar next to a water storage tank, close to aircraft beacon. Walked up access path to beacon and skirted around house on track. A lady observed our progress from an upstairs window of the house, we waved. We went up to the pillar on our return a man approached us from the house and asked if he could help. We explained we had just visited the pillar and were walking back to the public road, he asked us for our intentions for the rest of the day, I was suitably vague about this. He then explained that we had crossed his curtalaige and had distrubed him by walking across his garden. We had never left the graveled track. Glad we had the encounter on the return leg rather than the approach, he was pleasant enough but clearly does not want access across the land. Not sure how the large beacon is maintained, that must be more intrusive.


Good condition 12th Feb 2011  11:00  by fasgadh

FB Number: S1617  Condition: Good  Score: 5/10

The road up is now houseblocked, a big garden has absorbed the forest and navigation beacon road. This can be circumvented by using the grass field to the southeast. No hostiles encountered. Pillar in good shape, and intact. A goml can close the road, it goes through the garden, but cannot stop other routes or visits to the pillar. That nonsense starts a few miles to the south.

Cross Law ROC post Navigation beacon behind a Royal Observer Corps bunker.©fasgadh
Lumsdaine Trig pillar on a covered reservoir.©fasgadh
Lumsdaine ©fasgadh

Unreachable but visible 26th Apr 2009  00:00  by Border Peat

FB Number: S1617  Condition: Unreachable but visible  Score: 5/10

owner refused us entry said we could see it from near the house

Good condition 11th Nov 2007  15:27  by coinea

Gridref: NT 87232 68330   FB Number: S1617  Condition: Good  Score: 6/10

S1617 Lumsdaine

Good condition 11th Nov 2007  15:26  by Clochandighter

Gridref: NT 87231 68330   FB Number: S1617  Condition: Good  Score: 7/10

Revisit. Pillar in good condition, GPS plate fitted. Spider retains original OS cap with shallow engraved lettering. RHS sight hole open, others plugged. FB faces east ~91. Photographed 11/11/2007, GRP. COMMENT: Owner of nearby house had a GOML attempt. Told him we were going up anyway. Southern English sounding, he needs to gen up on Scottish Law.

S1617 - Lumsdaine pillar & FB

Good condition 9th Apr 2007  12:34  by andyc

FB Number: S1617  Condition: Good  Score: 6/10

You go your whole life never seeing an Aircraft beacon and then this weekend I see two! I was up Broad Law on Friday and then saw this one on Monday.

Good condition 8th Apr 2006  11:00  by fasgadh

FB Number: S1617  Condition: Good  Score: 6/10

Good views today up to Kincardineshire with various snow covered Mounth Hills clearly visible. Near an air traffic navigation beacon,similar to the one on Broad Law and ROC bunker.

Good condition 1st Nov 2004  12:00  by iainmac

FB Number: S1617  Condition: Good  Score: 5/10

Revisited to photograph.


Good condition 20th Sep 2004  17:37  by sky high boys

FB Number: S1617  Condition: Good  Score: 6/10

Possible to drive right up to the beacons and park metres from the trig. The beacons are the St Abbs NATC.

Trig ©sky high boys

Good condition 24th Dec 2003  12:00  by peregrinus

FB Number: S1617  Condition: Good  Score: 6/10

vgc, metal cap shallow letters, in front of ?NATS beacon, above large house

Good condition 13th Aug 2003  12:00  by iainmac

FB Number: S1617  Condition: Good  Score: 5/10

Beacon nearby.


Good condition 14th May 1997  13:00  by Am fear liath mor

FB Number: S1617  Condition: Good  Score: 6/10

Short walk from road. Great views to Angus hills.

Good condition 4th Aug 1993  15:18  by Clochandighter

FB Number: S1617  Condition: Good  Score: 7/10

First visit. To record FB number. The pillar was completed in 1936, cost unknown. In 1937 this marker was computed for triangulation as primary station PP324 in Figure 3 of the OSGB36 primary network of the Retriangulation of Great Britain. Flush bracket S1617 was levelled for height in 1953. This trig point was last maintained by the OS in 1991. SITE VISIT: Large aviation beacon at summit.

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