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TP3658 - Hartside Hill
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OSGB36 trig archive spreadsheet - IW
Hartside HillNT48/7NT48S007344794.51654283.16468.1722PILLAR01/06/1943201/06/1958N0

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This trigpoint:
Is ranked joint 5618th with 58 other trigs (more).
Has a mean score of 5.57/10 (from 23 logged visits)
Was First logged: 24th Jun 1986
Was Last logged: 2nd Jun 2023

Of the 23 logged visits,
10 recorded a location and of these....

All were within 12m
The average error was 5m
The closest was 1m

Boys from the Dyes Boys from the Dyes BigJ BigJ clochandighter clochandighter fasgadh fasgadh coinea coinea fasgadh fasgadh ipeattie ipeattie caroleengel caroleengel NJM NJM CJO CJO Hartside Hill Hartside Hill [Zoom In/Out] [Hide Labels]

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Hartside Hill
Left the camera in the car.  This is the hill from start of track.
By Boys from the Dyes
By iainmac
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Logged Visits:

Good condition 2nd Jun 2023  13:45  by CJO

Gridref: NT 44794 54291   FB Number: S3091  Condition: Good  Score: 6/10

All intact. Located in clearing 100m beyond masts. Sunny day. No views due to trees.


Good condition 18th Mar 2023  17:18  by NJM

Gridref: NT 44795 54288   FB Number: S3091  Condition: Good  Score: 5/10

A rather dull trudge up the mast service track, the sort of viewless walk where you need to either be with good company or be happy in your own as there's little in the way of entertainment except very tall spruce trees on either side of you. There and back was a fraction under 4 miles with 556ft of ascent. Rather wished I'd gone for a shorter but much steeper ascent from the W, I'm sure the track from Crookston North Mains then up the tree line between Hartside and Clint Hill would have been a more interesting route. No views, but trees so mature perhaps just a matter of time before this hill side is harvested? (Although the phrase 'Careful what you wish for' springs to mind...)

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View South West Storm's OS Pillar #493
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Good condition 12th Jun 2022  16:54  by BigJ

Gridref: NT 44795 54275   FB Number: S3091  Condition: Good  Score: 6/10

Came in from the forestry entrance to the north. Easy walk up the mast access road. Trig sits just beyond the mast. With CJ.

Good condition 21st Feb 2022  09:56  by NormanW

FB Number: S3091  Condition: Good  Score: 5/10

Easily reached by mast road from the North, and just a short tramp through heather to trig.

Good condition 20th Dec 2020  12:59  by fasgadh

Gridref: NT 44794 54279   FB Number: S3091  Condition: Good  Score: 4/10

On a circuit from Gilston by bike via Hopringle and the wind farm. Very good weather.

Hartside Hill ©fasgadh
Hartside Hill ©fasgadh
Hartside Hill ©fasgadh

Good condition 29th Nov 2020  10:19  by Oldhortus

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Good  Score: 5/10

Unsure of date. Visited when collecting Yeamens. Nice and easy along the track.

Good condition 29th May 2020  15:25  by A1Mushroom

FB Number: S3091  Condition: Good  Score: 6/10

Decided to give this one a spruce up. Same route as before.

Now that's better. ©A1Mushroom

Good condition 1st Sep 2019  12:30  by A1Mushroom

FB Number: S3091  Condition: Good  Score: 5/10

Parked at the entrance to the track at NT 445 566. Nice walk up to the mas and on to the Trig. Well worth the extra walk up to Clints Hill where the views are good.

Good condition 2nd Apr 2017  10:45  by vegibagger

FB Number: S3091  Condition: Good  Score: 5/10

from roadside to the NW. A newish mast 200m west of it will only get some afternoon sun so a bit mossy. orig plug Deep indented letters

trig ©vegibagger
top ©vegibagger
FB ©vegibagger
plug ©vegibagger

Good condition 7th Jan 2017  13:02  by agentmancuso

FB Number: S3091  Condition: Good  Score: 5/10

Along the dull track, livened by the pleasant foray out of the trees to Clints Hill. Trig in good nick, though it's lost an inch or two to creeping moss.

Good condition 3rd Oct 2016  00:00  by caroleengel

Gridref: NT 44798 54279   FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Good  Score: 5/10

On tussocky, heathery ride behind mast

Good condition 8th Apr 2015  18:30  by Borderer

FB Number: S3091  Condition: Good  Score: 4/10

Used forestry track to the summit mast and the pillar is a little further on. No views from the top or most of the way up due to the plantation. Worth a 10 minute detour to the mast on top of the neighboring Clints Hill which has great 360 views to Pentland Hills / Edinburgh / Fife / North Berwick & Bass Rock / Eildons and down to the Cheviots.


Good condition 6th Feb 2010  13:12  by coinea

Gridref: NT 44794 54280   FB Number: S3091  Condition: Good  Score: 7/10

S3091 Hartside Hill.

Good condition 6th Feb 2010  12:58  by clochandighter

Gridref: NT 44795 54277   FB Number: S3091  Condition: Good  Score: 8/10

Third visit. Pillar in good condition. Spider retains original OS centre cap with shallow engraved letters. Vented through west sight hole Flush bracket faces 85 east. Early secondary station, part of group to form an outer secondary frame around the Edinburgh block. this station was probably used later in the Jedburgh and Peebles blocks. Knee deep snow today.

S3091 - Hartside Hill pillar & FB
S3091 - Hartside Hill & GRP

Good condition 18th Jan 2009  12:00  by peregrinus

FB Number: S3091  Condition: Good  Score: 5/10

vgc, metal cap, shallow letters. In rushy forest ride just beyond mast. Easy walk from N via forest road.

Good condition 21st Nov 2008  11:55  by Chalky

FB Number: S3091  Condition: Good  Score: 4/10

Good condition 7th Jun 2008  11:25  by Boys from the Dyes

Gridref: NT 44784 54278   FB Number: S3091  Condition: Good  Score: 6/10

Nice walk up track to top of the hill. Pillar is Just after the communications mast.

Left the camera in the car. This is the hill from start of track.

Good condition 18th Jun 2005  13:30  by Isosceles

FB Number: S3091  Condition: Good  Score: 6/10


Good condition 27th Jun 2004  10:10  by ipeattie

Gridref: NT 44795 54282   FB Number: S3091  Condition: Good  Score: 5/10

There is a track starting at NT 445 566, which runs for about a mile and a half to the top of the hill. The track stops at the communications mast, with the trig being a few hundred feet further on, over some rough and boggy ground. No views from the top, unless you count north to the Dun Law wind farm, or south to the comms mast. Everything else is blocked by the trees. The best views appear when starting to walk back down. Saw some deer on the lower slopes. Trig in good condition with spider cap.

Hartside Hill - S3091 The pillar.
Hartside Hill - S3091 The flush bracket.

Good condition 26th Apr 2004  10:00  by fasgadh

Gridref: NT 44796 54279   FB Number: S3091  Condition: Good  Score: 5/10

Long dull forest road walk, but occassional views out to the Moorfoots. Just past a mast on a heathery ride. I have just upgraded my sheet 66, and the previous one did not have the forest on it. A yeaman.

Hartside Hill Soutra windfarm down the ride
Hartside Hill Metal

Good condition 23rd Apr 2003  13:00  by clochandighter

FB Number: S3091  Condition: Good  Score: 7/10

Pillar completed 28th March 1943 as a secondary station in Block NT48, Edinburgh. Just after the Edinburgh trigs were built, Hartside Hill was one of the outlying secondary stations built for Blocks NT48 and NT18. Other similar stations built at that time include Dundreich, Allermuir Hill, and West Cairn Hill. The infilling tertiary stations of Mid and East Lothian were built next, then the trig builders started on the Fife trigs across the Forth. S3091 (Hartside Hill) is in very good condition. Spider complete, retains original OS plug with engraved font. Flush bracket faces east. No view, in firebreak lined with young conifers. Follow forest track to comms mast. Original visit, 1986. Revisited and photographed 23/04/03, GRP.

S3091 - Hartside Hill Pillar & FB

Good condition 18th Apr 2003  12:00  by iainmac

FB Number: S3091  Condition: Good  Score: 5/10


Good condition 24th Jun 1986  11:09  by clochandighter

FB Number: S3091  Condition: Good  Score: 9/10

First visit. To record FB number. The pillar was completed 28th March 1943 costing 9.6s.0d. Later in 1943 this marker was computed for triangulation as secondary station NT48/7 in the Edinburgh block. The flush bracket was levelled for height in 1958. The trig point was last maintained by the OS in August 1981. Long views from top but the recently planted woods will soon put paid to that.

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