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TP4235 - Kingston Hill
 
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Flush Bracket :
S4760
OSGB36 Station :
SP91/T27
Current use :
none
Historic use :
T:UK waypoint :
TP4235
County :
Oxfordshire
Nearest town :
THAME

OSGB36 trig archive spreadsheet - IW
Trig NameOriginal NameNew NameEASTINGNORTHINGHEIGHTORDERTYPE OF MARKComputing DateCLASS OF LEVELLINGDate of LevellingLEVELLING DATUMDESTROYED MARK INDICATORCOMMENTS
Kingston HillSP91/T27SP91T027474655.19198232.48205.7943PILLAR01/06/1949101/06/1963N0

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There are 36 photos for this trigpoint (view album).

This trigpoint:
Is ranked joint 12917th with 165 other trigs (more).
Has a mean score of 5.08/10 (from 38 logged visits)
Was First logged: 11th Oct 1981
Was Last logged: 2nd Apr 2024

Of the 38 logged visits,
8 recorded a location and of these....

All were within 15m
The average error was 6m
1 was exact

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Good condition 2nd Apr 2024  13:58  by tetleyglc

FB Number: S4760  Condition: Good  Score: 6/10

I was recceing this one as a possible YOSM Geocache for the new series coming out soon. I approached from Crowell Hill, as the parking is better, and cut across off-piste to the pillar. Unfortunately this is located in pheasant breeding and shooting woods, so far too dodgy to set a cache! Maximum stealth is required to bag this trig, you can see all the tracks where the gamekeeper drives around to feed the pheasants. Finding the pillar as expected was tough due to the almost impenetrable box plantation surrounding it.


Good condition 29th Sep 2023  06:41  by Trigger monster

FB Number: S4760  Condition: Good  Score: 6/10

Pulled in at entrance to track to west of hill. Up track, bear right, south, past disused pumping station. Some equipment lying around, being used, as it seems, for some sort of shooting. Up steep quarry bank to east of pumping station. A bit of wandering around then decided to get help from here. Managed to find what seemed to be the concrete post. But couldn’t quite get the same view as Father Ted. Had seen the gap in the box hedge went through and had a look. No luck just some fallen or cut branches of hedge. It was only just getting light so difficult to see much, torch a bit weak. Already wet from recent rain and starting to get hot scrabbling around in the bushes. Back out of bushes and tried looking further along the hill and studying the other photographs. At the time decided it had probably been removed. However having had a bit more time to read through other logs I must have been close and it must still be there. Maybe I should have pushed further into the bush or I was at the wrong concrete post. Will need to revisit. Should have persevered, easy to say afterwards. Revisit 2 March 2024 6.36, happy big tick. Pleased my plan worked. Read other logs a couple of times and looked closely at map. Pulled in at water work’s station on the east side of the road. Around perimeter fence to south east corner then at right angles uphill. When reaching the track stayed at the same contour level and headed north along the side of the hill. After about fifty meters came to the same spot I was nearly six months ago. Saw one concrete post slightly lower down the hill. Continued north for another ten meters or so and discovered a second concrete post. The right one’ this time. Looked at box hedge for sign of path but pretty thickly grown so not obvious. Down on hands and knees crawling into bushes. And success. A meter or so to my right. Chuffed. Spider and cap in place. Increased mark from 3 to 6 for successful find. Slightly easier route out but not obvious from outside the bushes.

Kingston Hill Inside the hedge, was it here once or should I have gone in further
Kingston Hill A concrete post, looking north east , the ‘correct’ one is another twenty metres further north along the hillside
Kingston Hill Flush plate
Kingston Hill Spider and cap
Kingston Hill North side
Kingston Hill A rewarding find
Kingston Hill Right is south, ahead is east, blue hat marks way in, concrete post is the clue


Good condition 16th Aug 2023  13:10  by Nekyram

FB Number: S4760  Condition: Good  Score: 5/10

Parked in gateway and walked the track , passed the quarry to trig.


Good condition 21st Mar 2020  17:12  by 1473

Gridref: SU 74654 98225   FB Number: S4760  Condition: Good  Score: 5/10

Completely engrossed by vegetation. Get to roughly the same contour level on thr track as thre trig then head East until you come accross the box bushes, head South and around until you see a concrete post just South of where the trig is, small animal track hole takes you to the trig about 3 meters within the hedge. I accessed from the South which might be simpler, and exited via North, the woodland is clearly used for game and clay pigeon shooting.

Found it! ©1473
Go through the hedge ©1473


Good condition 23rd Apr 2017  09:15  by thejackrustles

FB Number: S4760  Condition: Good  Score: 5/10

Bagged as YSM97 Kingston Hill. Parked on the verge next to the racecourse, over gate and up large steep track up the hill. Presumed the trig was on the top but it wasn't, Mr U2 had sped on ahead so went too far up lol sometimes the tortoise wins! Detoured off track towards the trig to be faced with a large section of box hedge, still 50m, so we battled through. Mr U2 went commando, no he didn't take his pants off! He crawled through nice and low. I chose the bull in a China shop method and took half the hedge with me as I went along! Eventually found it, to discover it was only about 5m into the hedge in the lower section! Much easier descent!

Kingston Hill YOSM baggers ©thejackrustles
Kingston Hill collage ©thejackrustles


Good condition 26th Feb 2017  00:00  by caroleengel

Gridref: SU 74655 98238   FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Good  Score: 5/10

Parked and approached from water compound due west SU744982. Round field boundary and direct thru' wood to trig - no issues


Good condition 5th Oct 2016  10:23  by G1ANQ

FB Number: S4760  Condition: Good  Score: 4/10

Cycled along the Ridgeway and then down private track. Did take a bit of finding as it is hidden in a thick Box bush. Some views of the M40.

Flush Bracket Pic not good because of the box bush was so dark.
TP


Good condition 26th Aug 2016  09:30  by Mickandkim

FB Number: S4760  Condition: Good  Score: 6/10

Parked on ridge way and entered forest at gate signed Private straight on down hill to small path to left trig in bush( GPS required )


Good condition 31st Jul 2016  19:23  by BRISTOLIAN

FB Number: 4760  Condition: Good  Score: 5/10

Parked at farm gate and walked up gravel track. Passed old quarry then steep walk through overgrowth. Pillar in large box hedges. Distant views of fields and M40 motorway. Early evening visit here with no estate management around. The private keep out sign has to be ignored if you want this one.

Mr K at pillar. ©BRISTOLIAN


Good condition 25th Feb 2016  12:15  by Wubbleyew

FB Number: S4760  Condition: Good  Score: 6/10

A quick diversion from the Ridgeway. Luckily met no estate managers, gamekeepers, gunslingers, possessive landlords/ladies, or any other spoilsports. Though I did feel uncomfortable with guns going off regularly in what felt like close proximity. Found the pillar easily thanks to fellow trigpointers' directions. Remains hidden in its mossy coat, original cap in place with indented lettering, but couldn't determine the state of the sight-holes. Glad to get back to the Ridgeway.


Good condition 6th Dec 2015  10:53  by Redroaming

FB Number: S4760  Condition: Good  Score: 5/10

Had driven up to Oxfordshire to visit my aunt in Wallingford, and had planned to drive around today hopefully finding several of the many challenge geocaches in the area....Noticed that I would be driving past this trigpoint so didnt want to miss the opportunity of bagging a trig point as well! Parked near the gateway to the NW and walked up the track and then around passing the ruins of ? building and then up through the trees and then into the box bushes to eventually discover this TP. It is tucked away just inside the area of tall and prickly box, with a reasonable view. TP seems in good condition with a slight covering of moss. Decided to make a more direct descent as time was short BUT was soon discovered by an irate young lady who demanded what I was doing [she wasnt interested] - I was however strictly informed that this is PRIVATE LAND, THERE IS NO ALLOWED FOOTPATH and - to top it all - a pheasant shoot was about to start. Oops! All I could do was obviously to apologise and to return to my car as soon as I could, and thankfully she didnt want to take matters further. I have informed the CO of the YSM GC45CC of this encounter. Editing log - as once again the site doesnt want to upload my photo taken with my mobile phone. Have no idea why this happens, so would welcome some help and advice should anyone wish to contact me through my email address.


Good condition 15th Jul 2015  13:53  by jonglew

Gridref: SU 74657 98237   FB Number: S4760  Condition: Good  Score: 5/10

Parking at field gate to NW, good gravel vehicle track for most of the way, past what I took to be a large covered water tank, then into a quarry, up the side of it and into some deep, rough vegetation (nettles and bramble/briar) before finding Father Ted's concrete post and entrance into the box maze. An easy find thanks to previous loggers - and shorts weren't too much of a hinderance. What was a pain though was being confronted by the estate manager who remonstrated with me on the way down. Too late, I'd done the bag! Pillar was very mossy due to lack of light but VGC. Original cap in place, indented lettering; front sight hole open, L& RHD ones sealed, rear needs digging out. Surprisingly there were some good westward views.

Pillar TP4235©jonglew
Spider TP4235©jonglew
Flush Bracket TP4235©jonglew
Father Teds concrete post with entrance to box beyond TP4235©jonglew


Good condition 25th Feb 2015  17:02  by vegibagger

FB Number: S4760  Condition: Good  Score: 5/10

mossy masterpiece, just two metres in the greenery at the concrete fence post... with now extra trimming by me so that you can actually see the demure little hider !!.....Peregrinus yet again coming up trumps with the necessary precise bit of info I wanted after floundering 5-6m into the evergreen box thicket. thank you Rob. After my set to with a gamekeeper on Friday 23rd Jan, peaceful and trouble free this time.

almost hiding ©vegibagger
trig ©vegibagger
fb ©vegibagger
top ©vegibagger


Good condition 27th Sep 2014  07:17  by Geo-Myck

FB Number: S4760  Condition: Good  Score: 6/10

Today I decided that I was going to have a day grabbing a couple of trig pillars (one before and one after work) This was the first on the way so an early start. Soon managed to find a place to park up and took an off path direct ish route to the coords. Once close I struggled to get GPSr to settle for some reason and struggled with finding this pillar. I knew I must be close and with the threat of being late for work kept on until I noticed a glimpse of concrete through some trees and bingo there it was. Was in reasonably good condition all be it hidden from view.



Good condition 2nd Dec 2013  10:51  by THE CYCLIST

FB Number: S4760  Condition: Good  Score: 5/10

Arrived at gate to track from road just as a column of 4x4s descended one track and turned up the second. However, a second group came toward me and lady driver of the first vehicle assured me there was no shooting taking place and was agreeable to me walking up to find the pillar (no idea if she had right to give permission!). I had looked at website previously on this and OS 1:25,000. Took right hand fork up hill and immediately after concrete/brick walls turned left following upper edge of quarry/cliff edge. Soon saw a concrete fence post off to right. You then need to head diagonally left to a 2nd post, which is the one photographed by Father Ted, and the pillar is a short way into the nearby evergreen bushes.


Good condition 22nd Sep 2013  12:50  by seanmac

Gridref: SU 74659 98247   FB Number: S4760  Condition: Good  Score: 5/10

I didn't read the previous logs so I was dead lucky to find it after about 5 mins crawling about on my hands and knees. I did get a good GPS reading in the clearing above the old quarry so I knew I was close. Saw loads of Red Kites, grouse, rabbits and monkjack deer.

I cleaned the top a bit


Good condition 18th Sep 2013  14:31  by sven

FB Number: S4760  Condition: Good  Score: 7/10

Parked at the fork in the track. This is a dodgy area. Walked up the steep RH track to the ruined compound which has many shotgun cartridge cases and broken clays. Locate the scaffold tower on the LH side of the track just passed a fallen tree (wish I'd read the previous logs in greater detail). Cut in and contour following a vague track, locate Father Ted's concrete fence post, take a bearing of 111 magnetic line up with two tree stumps and move uphill into the thicket. You should reach the pillar covered in moss. Quick photos and away. Intercepted by a man in a minimoke truck who looked dodgy. He informed me I shouldn't be there, I played innocent and said I was looking for a trig point. Informed him I'd found it and that I was leaving. He went off and so did I.


Good condition 13th Jul 2013  09:47  by Delta68

FB Number: S4760  Condition: Good  Score: 5/10

Unsure how to get to this one at first, very tricky to find, didn't spot it until right next to it. Very eerie spot.


Good condition 6th Sep 2012  10:40  by pjr

Gridref: SU 74655 98232   FB Number: S4760  Condition: Good  Score: 5/10

Well Ihad to find this one on diversion from my main objective of walking the Ridgeway.Dialled home and got info of previous visits and there i was a few meters off concrete post,hands and knees and there it was.Decided to clear way into bushes as this search had lost me a lot of time on my hope of completing my Ridgeway walk on time.Pillar green with moss and algae.This appears to be a shooting area so any noise spooked me.On driveway back to road alarge tractor turns up drive it slows as it gets close but I get my head down and head for road.Back to Ridgeway.


Good condition 13th May 2012  15:00  by MCL

FB Number: S4760  Condition: Good  Score: 3/10

This deserves such a low score in revenge for what that thicket did to my body! (Hint...DONT wear shorts and a T-shirt...unless you are a fan of medieval torture techniques) Anyway this took me and my compatriot over an hour to find drawing blood from me and wrecking a new coat on Jason. (No it wasn't the Golden Fleece...). We first found the concrete post and push our way in but then somehow the path divided (well i call it a path only in the very loosest of terms) and we must have taken the wrong fork. Inside the thicket there is no hope of GPS lock and we fumbled and scratched around for ages before finally happening upon the beast. yes we also tried the trick of getting down on the floor of the thicket and looking through all the trunks to spot the concrete but sadly that just doesnt work! I hate it, I despise it, and I hope the little git rots in hell. Apart from that it was a lovely sunny afternoon with the birds tweeting and the lambs bleating... :)


Good condition 31st Mar 2012  12:27  by blackboot29

FB Number: S4760  Condition: Good  Score: 5/10

Second visit to find this, thanks to instructions given by others managed to locate it by finding the concrete post. Original plug.


Good condition 19th Jun 2011  16:07  by simplysup

FB Number: S4760  Condition: Good  Score: 5/10

Parked at the start of the track to the NW, as advised by previous loggers. Trogged up the steep track, then went off-piste when I spotted a small trail past a scaffolded viewing tower. Followed GPS needle in until I spotted the area in Father Ted's excellent photo, and made a quick find. Not sure this trigpoint will be of much aid to navigation!

View to the west


Good condition 14th May 2011  06:36  by Trigger

FB Number: S4760  Condition: Good  Score: 5/10

TP4235


Good condition 15th Jul 2010  19:45  by Lodgebarn

Gridref: SU 74656 98233   FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Good  Score: 6/10

Found while logging as a YOSM. I had fun finding the pillar and almost failed. Luckily I hadn't read any of the other logs it wouldn't have been so much fun. I did take quite a circuitous route up, a bit quicker descending.


Not Logged 3rd Jul 2010  11:10  by sniffadogz

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Not Logged  Score: 5/10

A tricky one to find.


Good condition 16th Sep 2009  11:42  by Glaslyn

Gridref: SU 74650 98230   FB Number: S4760  Condition: Good  Score: 5/10

Found easily mainly thanks to earlier loggers directions. Limited views. walked straight up track from the NW, no signs saying private, take first right hand track uphill. Just past flat concrete area on left enter woods crossing diagonally above concreted area. Look for edge of bushes and then I cant better Father Teds advice / photos for the last 15metres. Glad to find it having read earlier logs!!

©Glaslyn
©Glaslyn


Good condition 3rd Aug 2009  07:50  by bluebeard

FB Number: S4760  Condition: Good  Score: 6/10


Good condition 21st Dec 2008  11:32  by Father Ted

FB Number: S4760  Condition: Good  Score: 6/10

Gets a 6 for the satisfaction of finding it. Parked at the electricity substaction and walked up through the woods to the thicket. Darn I never realised these were evergreen bushes. Entered thicket using my GPS reading and found in less than a minute. Good old Garmin 201s. Heres a clue for the people who come later. Enter the thicket when you are lined up with the concrete post.

Way In Find the concrete post


Good condition 31st Mar 2007  16:08  by dal

FB Number: S4760  Condition: Good  Score: 7/10

Armed with previous excellent advice, this was not that difficult to find, particularly as there are no leaves on the trees, my GPS worked. I worked my way round the lower side of the thicket, and eventually struck lucky - it is on the W side of one of the ways 'in'. Surpisingly open view.


Good condition 13th Mar 2007  08:36  by rodz

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Good  Score: 5/10

YOSM - I think I was lucky to find this easily, although I did walk past it the first time as it is so hidden.


Good condition 12th Sep 2006  12:00  by peregrinus

FB Number: S4760  Condition: Good  Score: 5/10

Mossy but vgc, metal cap, shallow letters. 2m into ?Box thicket, near W edge, 120m from SW corner. 2nd time lucky, found fairly easily thanks to preceding logs. Nice beechwood.


Good condition 21st May 2006  15:00  by mickandshane

FB Number: S4760  Condition: Good  Score: 5/10

We spent two hours looking for this trig three weeks ago, before I had read previous logs. After reading Phil Richards log I thought it would be easy this time - what a mistake! I did'nt remember the bit about the view to the west but knew it was in the dense clump of bushes (something like a small-leaved privet) that covered a couple of hundred square metres just down the hill from a large pheasant rearing pen (not in use at this time of year). I wrongly assumed it must be on the higher ground - another mistake. My modus operandi of searching was to lay on the ground and look through the stems of the bushes hopefully seeing the 'trunk' of the pillar. I saw plenty of tree trunks but no trig. After peering into the bushes on the top side I then changed tactics and crawled through the stems a bit lower down, working my east to west. Some places you could stand up, and there are a few slight paths through the bushes (one with a hose pipe that must feed the pheasant pen) which made things a bit easier. I had almost given up (I had been there nearly two hours, it was raining - and getting heavier - and Shane was well cheesed off) when I eventually found it. It is just inside the bushes - you can just about see it from the outside if you know where to look - on the bottom of the slope, covered in moss as has been mentioned. It's not far from an oil drum with fencing around it. Good luck to the next person who looks for it! By the time we got back to the car, which we'd parked at the end of the track which leads down to Gurdon's Farm, we were absolutely soaked and decided to call it a day. Plug with indented lettering.


Couldn't find it 17th Apr 2006  10:30  by Lathama

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Couldn't find it  Score: 1/10

Down here today for Lincoln's penultimate away match of the season and had caches and other things to do so didn't have much time. Climbed up through the woods like the others but couldn't find it anywhere so, after watching two red kites and a muntjac deer gave up and went on my way! No doubt it's there somewhere.


Not Logged 20th Nov 2005  16:00  by John Stead

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Not Logged  Score: 0/10

Maybe I should have read the other logs first but I gave it a good try scrambling in the bushes as far as I could but without sight of the pillar. I even managed to leave my walking pole in the middle but fortunately was able to recover it. My track log when downloaded suggests that I went right round it but never to it.


Couldn't find it 28th Jun 2005  12:37  by rhayader_wanderer

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Couldn't find it  Score: 5/10

I drew a comprehensive blank on this one despite GPS at 3m and recognising the same thicket as in the photos. There was alot of clearance though so there might have been other things cleared as well, Of course I might also have been stareing it in the face :-)


Good condition 27th Dec 2004  12:31  by Team Hippo

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Good  Score: 6/10

I came here to do my first ever YOSM cache, #097. Half way up (or down) the side of the hill is not the place I usually associate with trig points! Surrounded by thick box bush growth, so no views.


Good condition 4th Jan 2004  15:43  by Pharisee

Gridref: SU 74655 98240   FB Number: S4760  Condition: Good  Score: 7/10

I went after this one specifically to log the ‘Ye Ole Survey Monuments’ geocache. It was fairly obvious that this T/P hadn’t been visited in quite a while. On the map, it looked easy but the track that seemed the easy route had a gate across it and a big notice stating that it was private property and there was no public access. So much for the easy route!!! I backtracked and entered the wood from the roadside. There were no fences and it was obvious from the terrain that I wasn’t the first to go in this way by a long chalk. I followed the GPS up the hill, through the wood and eventually found the T/P in the middle of a clump of dense bushes. It was covered in moss but apart from that, it was complete and in good nick. There was only one view, to the west, and that made the scramble up the hill worth while.

It's in there.... you can just about see it!!!
The plate
The top of the T/P.... with all my stuff on it!!!
The view to the west


Good condition 11th Oct 1981  00:00  by RogerTempleman

FB Number: S4760  Condition: Good  Score: 5/10

Plain pillar somewhat hidden amongst box bushes.



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