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6th Sep 2023  12:10  by painterman61

FB Number: S1663  Condition: Good  Score: 7/10

Took the valley route on the way up giving extra time for the mist to clear, luckily it did as I arrived. Moorland views trig looks as if its been patched up at some point has plug, climbed fence for the second county top.

Trig ©painterman61
Shadow man ©painterman61
View from the County line ©painterman61
Top ©painterman61
Flush Bracket ©painterman61

3rd Jun 2023  14:17  by Lynnebe

FB Number: S1663  Condition: Not Logged  Score: 5/10

From Faseny Bridge to Killpallet Rig, Little Law, Hunt Hill, Seenes Law, Lowrans Law, Harestone Hill. Good track S of quarry then Grouse butt track over Marlion Grain Rig to mapped track all the way to trig. Fence hop to Meikle Says Law (boundary). Followed fence boundary to windfarm, going through gate where boundary swings E. Left track at E spur to mast & good grass track to pylon track. Return to Faseny Bridge. Bone dry 24km, after a month of no rain.

21st May 2023  11:34  by Poppy60

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Not Logged  Score: 5/10

After wading through the many burns and climb up Meikle Says Law, found trig, weather was good you could see for mile, back over to Little says Law boggy in bits to fence line then headed back down towards the cottage and over thd bridge.

4th Feb 2023  09:17  by Dubvine

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Not Logged  Score: 5/10

26th Sep 2022  10:56  by GrowlerOutdoor

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Not Logged  Score: 6/10

Found with Biffin, Bones, Adcock and Mufasa

26th Sep 2022  10:56  by Biffin

FB Number: S1663  Condition: Good  Score: 7/10

Found with Growler, Matt & Andy

12th Jun 2022  13:29  by NJM

Gridref: NT 58122 61741   FB Number: S1663  Condition: Good  Score: 8/10

My second visit, mostly a different route. Previous experience prompted me to drive down and park by the footbridge just beyond Faseny Cottage rather than finish the walk with a steep climb back up to the road. Then a clockwise route following bulldozed tracks to Little Says Law, a heather bash along the border fence to the pillar and then the long sometimes undulating track that swings SW then N round Dunside then follows Faseny Water back to the start. Storm's 400th Pillar - wanted to do a County Top to mark the achievement - got two for the price of one!

View North East Storm's OS Pillar #400

22nd Apr 2022  11:06  by G4VFL

FB Number: S1663  Condition: Good  Score: 5/10

SOTA activation GM/SS-148

11th Sep 2021  11:43  by Sarah_Clough

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Good  Score: 5/10

Solo

©Sarah_Clough
©Sarah_Clough

14th Jul 2021  16:36  by geoconaly

FB Number: S1663  Condition: Good  Score: 6/10

31st Jan 2021  12:28  by fasgadh

FB Number: S1663  Condition: Good  Score: 6/10

Up from foot of Redstone Rig on foot in deep snow. Good going lower down but higher up there was a bit of ploutering required. A bit claggy at times.

9th Nov 2020  11:39  by fasgadh

Gridref: NT 58122 61736   FB Number: S1663  Condition: Good  Score: 4/10

Still intact. Mostly walked up Shiel Rig, returned down the fast road. Misty at first so the wind farm was invisible for a while.

Meikle Says Law ©fasgadh
Meikle Says Law ©fasgadh
Meikle Says Law ©fasgadh

30th Oct 2020  10:00  by Oldhortus

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Good  Score: 7/10

Up passed Faseny cottage and took a route over Collar Law - Little Says Law and onto the trig. The Fallago ridge wind farm to SW is massive and spoils the remoteness and view.

30th Oct 2020  00:00  by Llondon

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Not Logged  Score: 6/10

19th Sep 2020  12:29  by descarte1

Gridref: NT 58121 61738   FB Number: S1663  Condition: Good  Score: 7/10

Good condition pillar. Cap present with sunken lettering. FB faces north-ish. Parked on main road, walked down past the cottage the round the base of the hill across a lot of fords and up. Decided, for variety to come back down the mapped, but non-existent track until it met up with a quad-bike track. Clear blue skies. Good views.

31st Jul 2020  14:58  by Border Peat

Gridref: NT 58120 61737   FB Number: S1663  Condition: Good  Score: 10/10

Great walk 5 water crossings with water low no problem heather starting to flower blue sky sunshine & a light breeze hill back up to road was a killer

©Border Peat

28th Mar 2020  16:14  by Robduk

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Not Logged  Score: 5/10

22nd Mar 2020  08:50  by allankelly

FB Number: S1663  Condition: Good  Score: 9/10

It took 3 attempts to get up here! First time the weather was too bad, second I tried to come up the direct track marked on the OS map which turns out to cease to exist half way up. This time took the route around the valley and through 4 fords then up the well surfaced Landrover track to the top. Still a little snow and fantastic views down to the coast to the north.

29th Jun 2019  12:59  by Nick&Rosie

FB Number: S1663  Condition: Good  Score: 8/10

Took counter clockwise route from Fasney Cottage, you can actually walk a long time without seeing a wind turbine - or a tree! You could quite conceivably drive all the way to the TP in a 4x4...For such a remote TP I didn't expect to see anyone else (except perhaps gamekeepers) but 100m from the summit I met a couple coming down on the clockwise circuit. They weren't Trig-bagging, but bagging County Tops, so were delighted that they'd scored a double hit (this is on the border of East Lothian and Berwickshire) with this one!

View North
View East
View West with Rosie
View South Old Nic Sturgeon had a wind farm, ee-aye-ee-aye-oh; and on that wind farm she had some turbines, ee-aye-ee-aye-oh; with a turbine here and a turbine there, here a turbine, there a turbine every-bloody-where another bloody turbine...

4th Aug 2018  17:04  by Geordie

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Not Logged  Score: 5/10

4th Aug 2018  00:00  by carolje

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Good  Score: 5/10

8th May 2018  12:30  by KevP

FB Number: S1663  Condition: Good  Score: 8/10

Clockwise circuit on tracks from Faseny Cottage. Last Km to top a bit of a slog when path fizzled out.

3rd Dec 2017  13:00  by A1Mushroom

FB Number: S1663  Condition: Good  Score: 6/10

Fine day in borders for a walk. Parked at 613,637 then followed the quad track up to the trig point and came back via the burn, nice circle route.

26th Oct 2017  12:01  by greenbell

FB Number: S1663  Condition: Good  Score: 6/10

Couple of county tops bagged, also a Marilyn top - Eildon and Rubers Law peep beyond the disfiguring turbines, track wandering troublingly near the trig. However a glorious exotic view of the Forth, Bass and North Berwick Law also to be enjoyed, strange then that it feels like the edges of Lancashire. A fine wild drive from the Borders via Longfordmarcus and another hill to now wave at with fondness when wandering the Cheviots.

16th Oct 2017  16:41  by jonglew

Gridref: NT 58123 61736   FB Number: S1663  Condition: Good  Score: 5/10

Roadside verge parking on minor road to NE, by track leading to Faseny Cottage - could have driven down and parked there. Tracks shown on map are a bit hit and miss, fair bit of heather bashing required where it peters out (or we just lost it). Pillar retains original top cap, lightly indented lettering; rear sight hole open; sports a dirty coat of white paint. Cloud down, no views.

Flush Bracket TP0685©jonglew
Pillar TP0685©jonglew
Spider TP0685©jonglew

16th Oct 2017  16:34  by mntainman

Gridref: NT 58124 61738   FB Number: S1663  Condition: Good  Score: 5/10

13th Aug 2016  14:56  by NormanW

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Good  Score: 5/10

5th Jun 2016  11:45  by Moacky

FB Number: S1663  Condition: Good  Score: 8/10

Cycled up, cycled down. Down is quicker. Two historic county tops available, the trig point is East Lothian and just over the fence Berwickshire.

22nd Jul 2015  19:00  by Borderer

FB Number: S1663  Condition: Good  Score: 8/10

Made a clockwise circuit of the loop from Faseny Cottage. Decent track most of the way except the last stretch from the grouse hides below the summit on the way out. The pillar has been repaired on the south west corner at some point. Perfect July evening with great 360 views despite the turbines.

©Borderer

11th Jul 2015  00:00  by caroleengel

Gridref: NT 58123 61733   FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Good  Score: 7/10

2nd May 2015  21:52  by Mtb Innerwick Stravaiger

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Slightly damaged  Score: 8/10

Sayers Law

Meikle Says Law
Moontan Bikers View - www.mtbstravaiger73.blogspot.co.uk

2nd May 2015  17:02  by Robert Phillips

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Good  Score: 5/10

19th Mar 2015  12:35  by tim747

FB Number: S1663  Condition: Good  Score: 6/10

16th Nov 2013  13:41  by alanw

FB Number: S1663  Condition: Good  Score: 6/10

With dg. Windy day; my first on the Lammermuirs. Mountain hare, grouse. views.

8th Oct 2013  14:20  by ocean soul

FB Number: S1663  Condition: Good  Score: 6/10

Parked near Faseny cottage .. Good walk up to pillar overlooking large wind turbine farm ..

26th Jul 2013  18:12  by blackboot29

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Good  Score: 5/10

Good tracks to walk on used for grouse shooting

5th Mar 2011  13:30  by Leviathan

FB Number: S1663  Condition: Not Logged  Score: 5/10

4th Nov 2009  14:17  by Aye Jimmy

Gridref: NT 58121 61734   FB Number: S1663  Condition: Slightly damaged  Score: 5/10

Drab hill on a drab day. Piece of concrete missing from one edge. Aka Meikle Says Law.

Sayers Law Location and cap.
Sayers Law The TP.
Sayers Law The FB.

10th Sep 2009  16:00  by fasgadh

Gridref: NT 58128 61732   FB Number: S1663  Condition: Slightly damaged  Score: 8/10

Concrete starting to fall off the southern side of the pillar. Metalwork intact. I was warned about the nonexistent path by a keeper. The road running up the Faseny Water and looping around from the west is being regraded and gave a good run on the bike.

Meikle Says Law Pillar showing damage©fasgadh
Meikle Says Law Metal©fasgadh
Meikle Says Law The pillar and East Lothian highpoint. (The Berwickshire highpoint is a little to the south of the fence.©fasgadh

11th Jul 2009  16:07  by dugswell2

FB Number: S1663  Condition: Good  Score: 6/10

From NE passing Faseny Cottage on dry clear day.

28th Feb 2009  12:00  by peregrinus

FB Number: S1663  Condition: Good  Score: 6/10

vgc, metal cap, shallow letters, GPS plaque. Beside track, unexciting view. a/c/w circuit from East Hopes, including S3068

22nd Feb 2009  12:14  by Fester

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Good  Score: 7/10

Agree with Clochandighter as to the non existant path.! Much better to take the one heading towards Little Says Law.Nice open moorland feel and could see as far as the snow plastered Cairngorms.

26th Apr 2008  14:55  by coinea

Gridref: NT 58124 61733   FB Number: S1663  Condition: Good  Score: 8/10

S1663 Sayers Law.m

26th Apr 2008  14:49  by clochandighter

Gridref: NT 58122 61733   FB Number: S1663  Condition: Good  Score: 8/10

Parked on roadside verge at NT612636. Burn to wade or jump, higher mapped path to trig almost non-existant. In 2008 this pillar is still in good condition. The spider retains its original centre cap with shallow engraved lettering. Back sighting hole open, others plugged. Flush bracket faces due north. Highest point in Lammermuir Hills. Panorama includes Lammer Law, Allermuir Hill, Arthurs Seat, Benarty Hill, West Lomond, East Lomond, Skid Hill, Largo Law, North Berwick Law, Traprain Law, Rangely Kipp, Spartleton. Parked on roadside verge at NT612636. Burn to wade or jump, higher mapped path to trig almost non-existant.

S1663 - Sayers Law GPS pillar & FB

3rd Oct 2007  12:10  by cavinguk

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Good  Score: 7/10

Very remote location, saw nobody at all on our walk in the Lammermuir Hills.

25th Sep 2007  13:26  by sky high boys

FB Number: S1663  Condition: Good  Score: 5/10

Fairly bland hill on a windy but hot summers day. Dogs enjoyed it.

7th Apr 2007  11:16  by andyc

FB Number: S1663  Condition: Good  Score: 8/10

Lovely day on Easter weekend. Came up here for the trig and County tops but couldn't resist nabbing the cache as well despite not having a GPS or Compass its easy enough to fix the direction using the map and pace it out.

6th Dec 2006  19:40  by stonestreaker

FB Number: S1663  Condition: Good  Score: 6/10

bit of a drag to get up, plenty mountain hares standing out a mile - they must be fed up with the late snow

27th May 2006  13:47  by Haggis Hunter

Gridref: NT 58121 61735   FB Number: S1663  Condition: Good  Score: 5/10

Is it bleak or what up here? Got the nearby cache whilst here.

At the trig ©Haggis Hunter
FlushBracket

17th Apr 2006  12:00  by Firth of Forth

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Good  Score: 5/10

Came here with Jack Aubrey to place a cache.

©Firth of Forth
Jack Aubrey ©Firth of Forth

11th Aug 2005  13:55  by vegibagger

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Good  Score: 5/10

5th Mar 2005  12:16  by Sandman

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Not Logged  Score: 5/10

Meikle Says Law - S1663 ©Sandman

8th Mar 2003  00:00  by agentmancuso

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Good  Score: 5/10

Damp and unwelcoming summit.

12th Nov 2002  10:30  by jimmy

FB Number: S1663  Condition: Good  Score: 7/10

a foggy frosty day on which I saw 3 mountain hares in their full white--and only one of them was dead. The name is wrong--this hill is Meikle Says Law-"Sayers" is nonsense-and is the summit of East Lothian and Berwickshire. GPS plaque dated July 1999 as usual and the trig was freshly painted

19th Oct 2000  06:15  by Chalky

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Not Logged  Score: 5/10

2nd Sep 2000  14:25  by arranc

Gridref: NT 58100 61700   FB Number: S1663  Condition: Good  Score: 7/10

18th Feb 2000  12:00  by peregrinus

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Not Logged  Score: 7/10

wide rolling heather moor, not v boggy; direct route slower than tk. No trig details noted.

24th Aug 1998  12:05  by fasgadh

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Good  Score: 7/10

Bonny Bloomin Heather. The Lammermuirs were in full bloom on this day. Meikle Says Law is the range's highest hill and both Berwickshire's and East Lothian's highpoint.

The summit and trig.

14th Aug 1997  12:00  by iainmac

FB Number: S1663  Condition: Good  Score: 5/10

S1663
S1663

19th Mar 1997  14:00  by Am fear liath mor

FB Number: S1663  Condition: Good  Score: 6/10

Less than an hour's gentle walk from Faseny across grouse moor.

5th Jan 1996  15:50  by vegibagger

FB Number: S1663  Condition: Good  Score: 5/10

In cloud and failing light, no compass and rising panic eventually walking 100m one direction and 100m. at right angles. Almost gave up but eventually found it then fled.

5th Sep 1994  13:00  by Bridgeman

FB Number: Not logged  Condition: Good  Score: 7/10

Out and back walk from road at Redstone Rig.

Sayers Law Trig Point ©Bridgeman

1st Apr 1987  12:34  by clochandighter

FB Number: S1663  Condition: Good  Score: 8/10

The pillar was completed circa December 1936, exact date and cost not on record. Computed as primary triangulation station PP333 in figure 3 of the OSGB36 retriangulation network during 1937. This station was also used for the reconnaissance of secondary blocks NT48 (Edinburgh) in 1943, NT86 (Berwick) in 1953, NT72 (Jedburgh) in 1957, and NT33 (Peebles) during 1959. The flush bracket was levelled to second class precision in 1958. The final pre-GPS maintenance by the OS was in July 1989. This marker continues to be maintained by the OS as GPS passive station T1NT5861.